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RE: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure

  • 1.  RE: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure

    Posted 04-25-2002 08:38
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    Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure


    
    David,
    
    The best way to have IBM address your questions is for your patent attorney
    to contact the person who is named in the IP disclosure.
    
    Regards,
    Marty
    
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    Martin W. Sachs
    IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
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    Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
    Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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                          "Burdett, David"                                                                                                        
                          <david.burdett@comme        To:       "'Anders W. Tell'" <anderst@toolsmiths.se>, Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM@IBMUS,      
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                          04/24/2002 08:37 PM         Subject:  RE: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure                            
                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                  
    
    
    
    Anders, David, Marty.
    
    Now I am not a patent expert, but I believe that a patent applies to an
    IDEA
    and not just a specification. So even if we remove direct references to
    CPAs
    in the messaging spec, it can still mean that IBM's IP and therefore its
    patent still applies. To fix this would require us to go somewhere we
    probably don't want to go and that is to make the Messaging Spec work
    WITHOUT any prior agreements being necessary.
    
    Alternatively, I'd appreciate some answers from IBM - who I know have the
    patent lawyers who can answer these questions. Specifically does IBM intend
    to "enforce" their TPA/ML patent against any users of the CPPA or Messaging
    specs. Now I know that IBM has already said that they won't charge royalty
    fees but:
    1. Will IBM require any user of the ebXML specs to sign an IBM licensing
    agreement for TPA/ML
    2. Would such a licensing agreement contain constraints on how the CPA
    specification could be used - in which case what would they be.
    3. Will derivative works developed from the CPPA specs be allowed, and if
    so, can anyone develop derivative works or will IBM try to restrict its
    use.
    
    David