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RE: [ebxml-msg] Sign and Encrypt

  • 1.  RE: [ebxml-msg] Sign and Encrypt

    Posted 10-26-2001 16:05
    
    Arvola, David,
    
    The envelope is not encrypted prior to signing. Payload
    encryption is beyond the scope of current MS spec.
    Encrypting the envelope requires the addition of 
    transforms for exclusion of Via etc. that are transient in communication.
    Given these, though an important need for privacy,
     we may delay specing it till v1.2 (meanwhile XML Encryption
    will mature too).
    Cheers,
    -Suresh
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Arvola Chan [mailto:arvola@tibco.com]
    Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:17 PM
    To: David Fischer; ebXML Msg
    Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Sign and Encrypt
    
    
    David:
    
    You proposed order of signing before encrypting works only if the MSH
    takes care of both signatures and encryption.
    
    In the current Messaging spec, the MSH is responsible for signing but
    not encryption. Therefore, if you are concerned with persistent encryption
    of the payload portion of an ebXML message, the encryption will have to
    be performed first. The encrypted payload(s) will then have to be passed to
    the MSH for packaging and signing.
    
    Regards,
    -Arvola
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Fischer <david@drummondgroup.com>
    To: ebXML Msg <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Date: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:02 PM
    Subject: [ebxml-msg] Sign and Encrypt
    
    
    I am looking through the spec and I don't see anywhere that says which to do
    first, Sign or Encrypt.  All security protocols of which I am aware always
    sign
    first and then encrypt.  This may be obvious but I would like to add a note
    to
    this effect in section 4.1.4.5.
    
    Note:  When both signature and encryption are required, sign first and then
    encrypt.
    
    Regards,
    
    David Fischer
    Drummond Group.
    
    
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