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Re: Schema-Specification normative preference wasRE:[ebxml-msg]Issue73:http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelopenamespace

  • 1.  Re: Schema-Specification normative preference wasRE:[ebxml-msg]Issue73:http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelopenamespace

    Posted 02-18-2002 20:51
    Duane:
    
    In message-header-2_0.xsd, we include the following import clauses:
    
      <import namespace="http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#"
    schemaLocation="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ebxml-msg/schema/xmldsi
    g-core-schema.xsd" />
      <import namespace="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"
    schemaLocation="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ebxml-msg/schema/xlink.
    xsd" />
      <import namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
    schemaLocation="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ebxml-msg/schema/envelo
    pe.xsd" />
      <import namespace="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace"
    schemaLocation="http://www.w3.org/2001/03/xml.xsd" />
    
    These import clauses are necessary because attributes and elements defined
    in these foreign namespaces are actually referenced within the message
    header schema (e.g., soap:mustUnderstand, xlink:href, ds:Signautre,
    xml:lang, etc). I don't think the message header schema would be valid
    without the import clauses.
    
    The import construct is used in the schema definition, not in an instance
    document. I am a little confused when you wrote:
    
    > > 1. In an instance document, the attribute xsi:schemaLocation provides
    hints
    > > from the author to a processor regarding the location of schema
    documents.
    > > The author warrants that these schema documents are relevant to checking
    the
    > > validity of the document content, on a namespace by namespace basis. For
    > > example, we can indicate the location of the Report schema to a
    processor of
    > > the Quarterly Report:
    > <SNIP>/.....
    >
    > My interpretation of the above:  This refers to importing definitions in
    > order to perform a validating parse on an "instance document" - as the
    > example states.  If someone wishes to check the validity of a namespace
    > qualified element to see if its' content matches (ie - datatyping
    > constaints or content model), then they may have to resolve the
    > schemalocation.
    >
    > What I am asking is "Is the requirement importing definitions OR is it
    > to avoid naming conflicts?"
    
    -Arvola
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Duane Nickull" <duane@xmlglobal.com>
    To: "Arvola Chan" <arvola@tibco.com>
    Cc: "Dale Moberg" <dmoberg@cyclonecommerce.com>; "David Fischer"
    <david@drummondgroup.com>; "Christopher Ferris" <chris.ferris@sun.com>;
    "Doug Bunting" <dougb62@yahoo.com>; "ebXML Messaging"
    <ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:59 PM
    Subject: Re: Schema-Specification normative preference wasRE:
    [ebxml-msg]Issue73:http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelopenamespace
    
    
    > Comments inline:
    >
    > Arvola Chan wrote:
    > >
    > > Duane:
    > >
    > > The reason why the ebxml-msg TC has to define its own namespace is
    because
    > > the ebXML message header elements are defined as extensions to the SOAP
    > > Header and SOAP body elements. SOAP requires extension elements to be
    > > namespace qualified.
    > >>>>>>>
    >
    > Arvola:
    >
    > Yes - I am very aware of namespaces themselves.  My question revolved
    > around a comment that someone made to this thread complaining that they
    > could not import the definitions from the namespace schemaLocation
    > target.  I wondered why it would ever be a requirement to import the
    > actual definitions (the specification says you must be able to do so via
    > the schemalocation attribute as you quote below.).  If it is a
    > requirement, then I personally was curious of the driver for that
    > requirement.
    >
    > It seems like it may not be a formal requirement and that perhaps we are
    > simply using the namespace values to avoid conflicts (since you cite the
    > SOAP example as the driver).  If this is true,  then there is no
    > problem.
    >
    > >
    > > The schemaLocation attributes in the schema and in instance documents
    only
    > > serve as hints. Schema processors are not required to use these hints.
    The
    > > application that invokes a schema processor can direct the latter not to
    > > dereference the value specified for the schemaLocation attribute and
    instead
    > > use some cached version of the schema.
    > >>>>>
    >
    > Local caching still requires you resolve it at least once.
    >
    > > The following is an excerpt from http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-0/
    > >
    > > "
    > > 5.6 schemaLocation
    > > XML Schema uses the schemaLocation and xsi:schemaLocation attributes in
    > > three circumstances.
    > >
    > > 1. In an instance document, the attribute xsi:schemaLocation provides
    hints
    > > from the author to a processor regarding the location of schema
    documents.
    > > The author warrants that these schema documents are relevant to checking
    the
    > > validity of the document content, on a namespace by namespace basis. For
    > > example, we can indicate the location of the Report schema to a
    processor of
    > > the Quarterly Report:
    > <SNIP>/.....
    >
    > My interpretation of the above:  This refers to importing definitions in
    > order to perform a validating parse on an "instance document" - as the
    > example states.  If someone wishes to check the validity of a namespace
    > qualified element to see if its' content matches (ie - datatyping
    > constaints or content model), then they may have to resolve the
    > schemalocation.
    >
    > What I am asking is "Is the requirement importing definitions OR is it
    > to avoid naming conflicts?"
    >
    > If anyone knows the answer, can they please state the answer and if it
    > is definition importing as a strict requirement,  please state why.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Duane Nickull
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