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RE: [ebxml-msg] Use of SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 - Comments please

  • 1.  RE: [ebxml-msg] Use of SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 - Comments please

    Posted 11-10-2004 02:53
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    Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Use of SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 - Comments please


    Title: RE: [ebxml-msg] Use of SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 - Comments please

    Agree - for alignment with underlying WS standards, I think we have a stronger case with sticking to current WS-I profiles.

    Even if a new WS-I profile with MTOM and SOAP 1.2 shows up in the next 6 months, would we be better of by having anticipated the use of SOAP 1.2 and MTOM? I bet that even if we base ebMS 3.0 on these specifications today, probability it complies with this future profile is ~0.02... and an adjustment (3.x) based on these same specs would be embarrassing, and probably not backward compatible anyway.

      
    There are already several questions to answer when considering WS-I BP 1.1, AP, BSP compliance, that I have outlined in a previous mail last summer. I'll expand on these if I can be sure we go that way for ebMS 3.0.

    Jacques

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeff Turpin [mailto:jturpin@cyclonecommerce.com]
    Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:38 AM
    To: ian.c.jones@bt.com
    Cc: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Use of SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 - Comments please


    I think SOAP 1.1 might make more sense at this point, since we were hoping
    to get a draft out by the end of the year.


    Jeff


    On 11/1/04 9:27 AM, "Matthew MacKenzie" <mattm@adobe.com> wrote:

    > I am in favor of sticking with SOAP 1.1, unless someone has a really
    > compelling argument. My sense of SOAP 1.2 support is that we were doing
    > it just because it was there.
    >
    > It may make sense to roll 1.2 migration into MTOM/XOP consideration in
    > 3.(n > 0).
    >
    > -matt
    >
    > On 1-Nov-04, at 11:22 AM, ian.c.jones@bt.com wrote:
    >
    >> Use of SOAP 1.1 & SOAP 1.2 - Comments please
    >>
    >> During a recent call the discussion of packaging of "attachments"
    >> carried as part of an ebXML message identified the current position of
    >> SOAP 1.2 having no approved or supported "attachments" mechanism.
    >> This lead to a wider discussion on the migration to using SOAP 1.2 as
    >> a component of ebXML messaging version 3.0.
    >>
    >> The following issues and comments were identified:-
    >> WS-I is focused on SOAP 1.1 profiles.  ( We wish to be close to or
    >> compatible with WS-I profiles to aid interoperability.)
    >> WS-I basic security profile is only defined for SOAP 1.1.
    >> WS-Security 2004 (SOAP with attachments) is SOAP 1.1 only.
    >> Tool support for development and use of SAOP 1.2 are limited.
    >> Lack of SOAP 1.2 approved "Attachmate" specification (MTOM) approval -
    >> this is expect soon, but its suitability must bee assessed once the
    >> final version is available.
    >> Lack of deployed architectures supporting SOAP 1.2
    >>
    >> Due to all of the above consideration is being given to reverting the
    >> existing position of moving to use SOAP 1.2 as part of ebXML messaging
    >> version 3.0 messaging and stay with SOAP 1.1 as used in ebXML
    >> messaging version 2.0.
    >>
    >> We invite all comments and discussion on this vital topic and wish to
    >> hear and understand all views form interested parties
    >>
    >>
    >> Thak you
    >>
    >> Ian Jones
    >> Chair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC
    >>
    >> Email: ian.c.jones@bt.com
    >>
    >>
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