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RE: [ebxml-msg] Re: Comments on the 1.09 about ConversationId

  • 1.  RE: [ebxml-msg] Re: Comments on the 1.09 about ConversationId

    Posted 12-01-2001 01:02
    Hi all,
    
    	Yep, I also agree on this. As it stands now, conversationID is out of the
    MSH's sphere of influence. We had some e-mails during the "old" days about
    MSH spec and Application relationships/interfaces.
    
    	When we get a chance, I would like to re-visit (or rather visit) this
    issue. May be we will keep this for version 1.5 or 2.
    
    cheers
    
     | -----Original Message-----
     | From: Dan Weinreb [mailto:dlw@exceloncorp.com]
     | Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:00 PM
     | To: mwsachs@us.ibm.com
     | Cc: shima.masa@jp.fujitsu.com; ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
     | Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Re: Comments on the 1.09 about ConversationId
     |
     |
     |    Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:38:24 -0500
     |    From: Martin W Sachs <mwsachs@us.ibm.com>
     |
     |    MWS:  The total of my argument is that there is no reason for
     | the MSH to
     |    manage the conversationId or to create its own internal form of the
     |    conversationId.  The conversation is a construct of the
     | application and
     |    higher level middleware and the MSH only has to place the
     | conversationId in
     |    the header of the outgoing message. See my response below.
     |
     | I agree with this.
     |
     | I think this is independent of the issue of message ordering.
     |
     | (Actually, the MS spec generally has little to say about the interface
     | between the Application and the MSH, so I'm not sure why we should
     | start worrying about it now.  The MS spec really just talks about the
     | communication between the two ends.  So the question of whether the
     | application supplies the conversationId to the MSH, or the MSH
     | generates the conversationId itself, may not even be "in scope".
     | In light of this, I think we should not say anything about "who"
     | picks the conversationId as part of the MS spec.)
     |
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