OASIS XML Localisation Interchange File Format (XLIFF) TC

  • 1.  Groups - Event "XLIFF TC Conference Call" added

    Posted 11-05-2012 03:46
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    Event Title : XLIFF TC Conference Call Date : Tuesday, 06 November 2012, 11:00am to 12:00pm EST Description
     

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    === 1/ Roll call

    === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 02 October 2012 meeting minutes:

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00008.html

    === 3/ XLIFF 2.0 ( http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking )

    --- 1.    Features proposed/discussed on the mailing list

      a. Face to face debrief, and, as needed, approval of issues where consensus was reached

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00070.html - I will summarize and update this agenda in order to hit the ground running.

      b. Processing requirements for extensions (Yves) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201209/msg00006.html

      c. Extensions and modules (Rodolfo) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201209/msg00016.html

      d. (S6) Resource Inheritance (Steven) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201209/msg00019.html

      e. (S24) Representation of plural entries (Steven) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201209/msg00020.html

      e. XLIFF 2.0 dF Sanity check 1 & 2

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00074.html

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00075.html

      f. Extensibility and processing requirements (David) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00078.html

      (morphed into) Extensions in segments / Extended attributes in mrk

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201211/msg00012.html

    --- 2. XLIFF 2.0 Technical issues ( http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking#TechnicalIssuesforXLIFF2.0 )

    --- 3. Conformance criteria

    --- 4. Charter: Need to bring up to date to reflect XLIFF 2.0

          David's proposal https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201209/msg00001.html

          Here’s the current charter

          http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/charter.php

    === 4/ Sub Committee Reports

    --- 1. Inline text (Yves)

    --- 2. XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC Charter (David)

    === 5/ Current XLIFF business

    ---1. Voting on “Freezing proposed features at 2nd November meeting” (Bryan) https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201211/msg00018.html

    === 6/ New Business Owner : Bryan Schnabel Group : OASIS XML Localisation Interchange File Format (XLIFF) TC Sharing : This event is shared with the OASIS Open (General Membership), and General Public groups. Public Event Link BEGIN:VCALENDAR CALSCALE:GREGORIAN METHOD:PUBLISH VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//Kavi Corporation//NONSGML Kavi Groups//EN X-MS-OLK-FORCEINSPECTOROPEN:TRUE BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:America/New_York BEGIN:STANDARD DTSTART:20001029T020000 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=-1SU;BYMONTH=10;UNTIL=20061029T060000Z TZNAME:EST TZOFFSETFROM:-0400 TZOFFSETTO:-0500 END:STANDARD BEGIN:STANDARD DTSTART:20071104T020000 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=1SU;BYMONTH=11 TZNAME:EST TZOFFSETFROM:-0400 TZOFFSETTO:-0500 END:STANDARD BEGIN:DAYLIGHT DTSTART:20000402T020000 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=1SU;BYMONTH=4;UNTIL=20060402T070000Z TZNAME:EDT TZOFFSETFROM:-0500 TZOFFSETTO:-0400 END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:DAYLIGHT DTSTART:20070311T020000 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=2SU;BYMONTH=3 TZNAME:EDT TZOFFSETFROM:-0500 TZOFFSETTO:-0400 END:DAYLIGHT END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT CATEGORIES:MEETING STATUS:CONFIRMED TRANSP:OPAQUE DTSTAMP:20121104T000000Z DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME;TZID=America/New_York:20121106T110000 DTEND;VALUE=DATE-TIME;TZID=America/New_York:20121106T120000 SEQUENCE:0 SUMMARY:XLIFF TC Conference Call DESCRIPTION:


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    Access Code: 905-529-225

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    Meeting ID: 905-529-225

    Agenda:


    === 1/ Roll call

    === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 02 October 2012 meeting minutes:

    file://localhost/archives/xliff/201210/msg00008.html

    === 3/ XLIFF 2.0 ( http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking )

    --- 1. Features proposed/discussed on the mailing list

    a. Face to face debrief, and, as needed, approval of issues where consensus was reached

    file://localhost/archives/xliff/201210/msg00070.html - I will summarize and update this agenda in order to hit the ground running.

    b. Processing requirements for extensions (Yves) file://localhost/archives/xliff/201209/msg00006.html

    c. Extensions and modules (Rodolfo) file://localhost/archives/xliff/201209/msg00016.html

    d. (S6) Resource Inheritance (Steven) file://localhost/archives/xliff/201209/msg00019.html

    e. (S24) Representation of plural entries (Steven) file://localhost/archives/xliff/201209/msg00020.html

    e. XLIFF 2.0 dF Sanity check 1 & 2

    file://localhost/archives/xliff/201210/msg00074.html

    file://localhost/archives/xliff/201210/msg00075.html

    f. Extensibility and processing requirements (David) file://localhost/archives/xliff/201210/msg00078.html

    (morphed into) Extensions in segments / Extended attributes in mrk

    file://localhost/archives/xliff/201211/msg00012.html

    --- 2. XLIFF 2.0 Technical issues ( http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking#TechnicalIssuesforXLIFF2.0 )

    --- 3. Conformance criteria

    --- 4. Charter: Need to bring up to date to reflect XLIFF 2.0

    David's proposal file://localhost/archives/xliff/201209/msg00001.html

    Here’s the current charter

    http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/charter.php

    === 4/ Sub Committee Reports

    --- 1. Inline text (Yves)

    --- 2. XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC Charter (David)

    === 5/ Current XLIFF business

    ---1. Voting on “Freezing proposed features at 2nd November meeting” (Bryan) file://localhost/archives/xliff/201211/msg00018.html

    === 6/ New Business
    Group: OASIS XML Localisation Interchange File Format (XLIFF) TC
    Creator: Bryan Schnabel URL: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/event.php?event_id=33794 UID: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/event.php?event_id=33794 BEGIN:VALARM ACTION:DISPLAY DESCRIPTION:REMINDER TRIGGER;RELATED=START:-PT00H15M00S END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR

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  • 2.  XLIFF TC Teleconference Summary - Nov-6-2012

    Posted 11-06-2012 18:02
    Tuesday, 06 November 2012, 11:00am to 12:00pm EST XLIFF TC Teleconference Summary === 1/ Roll call Present: Bryan, DavidW, Yves, Shirley, Asanka, Helena, Christian, Ingo, Victor, Jungwoo, Kevin, Fredrik, Rodolfo, Joachim, Uwe, Tom, Michael, Regrets: DavidF === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 02 October 2012 meeting minutes: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00008.html Bryan move to accept the minutes Rodolfo Seconds No objections F: URL in iCal is wrong. (local file) === 3/ XLIFF 2.0 ( http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking B: proposed to freeze features by next meeting. .. Joachim seconded .. this not include inline markup R: proposal is fine. .. still work to do. New feature freeze is fine. .. so we can work on the accepted features B: Idea is to either move items in section to section 3, or have the owners work on them to have them accepted before freeze. R: C15: MIME type of XLIFF is being handled by OASIS. .. we just have to vote to have a MIME type or not. B: ok, we could do that, need to do that before next meeting. .. any issue with the proposal? F: fine. Maybe web ballot for the MIME type. .. proposal for freeze is fine too. R: let do a roll call ballot now. Ballot: yes to freeze new features by the next meeting? Passes: all yes. B: also could someone recommend a free XML editor to work on the schema. .. now let's talk about item #3 R: about PRs for modules vs PRs for exetnsions R: long discussion. .. difference in details. .. should we make a distinction between module and extensions .. DavidF wants to use MUST preserve for module .. Yves noted that modules are optional, should be deletable. .. question for the TC is should be preserve optional module or not? B: So 'modules MUST be preserve' or 'SHOULD be preserve'? R: hope others can weigh in. F: if we put extension points where we cannot preserve it is not helping. So opinion is more MUST preserve for modules and extensions. B: Agree with DavidF K: agree with DavidF too. It's reasonable to have only Should for extension J: but agreement between tool may not be relied on. Agree with Fredrik (MUST on both) K: difficult to expect all extensions to be preserved. But I understand the scenario R: maybe an electronic ballot to decide for each, so two option for each. .. not sure the email discussion is clear enough. .. not sure everyone has followed the discussion B: many undecided? DW: do we have extension inside segment? R: no. F: working on module for size will need to be in segment. R: fine Discussion of ITS in mrk: Can a module be using a non-TC or not? R: standard not finished yet F: but when stable, that's ok Y: will wait for when ITS 2.0 is stable, done. R: not inside segment? F: don't agree with *any* namespace. .. need more qualification R: what about the IPR? Y: have not looked at it yet. ACTION ITEM: Yves to post a proposal for 3rd party NS in module Back to module/extension H: can't decide now. R: ballot will be: MUST or SHOULD for module, MUST or SHOULD for custom namespaces, and abstain DW: agree with electronic ballot V: from content publisher viewpoint I understand the difference, but we need the extensions to be preserved. R: good choice, so you could vote. .. personally would use should for both V: in your case it make sense, but not in our scenario R: understand that position J: basically we don't want any extension to be removed. F: agree with that too. .. some use cases where people want to remove things .. those cases means breaking the process .. we cannot stop people to not follow the PRs, PRs can be used just to point to the guilty part. B: We need to move on. .. encourage discussion on the mailing list === 4/ Sub Committee Reports --- 1. Inline text (Yves) No meeting since F2F, working on filling examples. Hope to decide if we can send a proposal to the TC at next meeting --- 2. XLIFF Promotion and Liaison SC Charter (David) B: F2F was 2 weeks ago, in Redmond. https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201210/msg00070.html for translation state: state + subState attributes and on the segment rather than the target for the fs attribute: discussion's conclusion was that it should be a module will be defined as an HTML preview. Bryan has action item to propose the text. For the public portion several people joined us. Breakout sessions Will talk about symposium next time. Many thanks to Microsoft for hosting the F2F. === 5/ Current XLIFF business CL: information: talked internally about SAP and XLIFF TC. Decision is that SAP will stop contributing to the TC for now. We will join again when possible. B: Many thanks for the many contributions. .. Christian was the longest uninterrupted member of the TC. B: any recommendation for a free tool to edit/view the schema? R: eclipse has a module for the schema. F: yes eclipse with XML tooling .. didn't try with XLIFF R: works fine B: if you have other suggestions, please post it in the list. F: need the mime type ballot too. R: will try to make up something. -adjourned