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IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-07-31

  • 1.  IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-07-31

    Posted 07-31-2013 14:36
    Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below. Our next meeting will be in about two weeks on the 14th of August: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=8&day=14&hour=13&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800 https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=33775 The teleconference login data will be found in the OASIS calendar event (URL above). Attendees: Thorsten, Oliver, Peter, Luke, Svante. Peter Rakyta- MultiRacio Ltd.: Hi Oliver! Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: hi peter Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: i have to switch rooms - will be offline for a moment anonymous morphed into Thorsten Thorsten: Hi! Peter Rakyta- MultiRacio Ltd.: Hi! Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: moin moin Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: does somebody heard anything of a ODF plugfest taking place this year? Peter Rakyta- MultiRacio Ltd.: nope Svante Schubert: Hi everyone [15:33]  Thorsten: well, we could have something at the LibreOffice conference? [15:35]  anonymous morphed into Luke De Mouy [15:35]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: hm.. as LibreOffice conference is taking place in about 8-9 weeks I think this is not enough time to setup something like an ODF Plugfest [15:37]  Svante Schubert: Luke is introducing himself.. [15:40]  Svante Schubert: DocEng 2013, http://www.doceng2013.org/ from Tuesday 10 September to Friday 13 September in Florence Italy [15:45]  Svante Schubert: The next ODF related conference, where we might have a face2face meeting is the LibreOffice Conference [15:45]  Thorsten: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/call-for-papers [15:46]  Svante Schubert: I might pass the deadline by two days due my current vacations, but Thorsten state that it is worth a try [15:48]  Svante Schubert: Instead of writing changes (e.g. paragraph change) into the paragraph. By writing some before/after XML The idea is to define an allowed change beforehand like for a table, we would define a move row or the insertion/deletion of a paragraph These entities that can be inserted/deleted/moved, we call components They are larger pieces of XML. Some groupings, that have a high semantic bounding Lucky us the XML design is not in a way, that they are spread across the document even a single character is a component [15:52]  Svante Schubert: The set of functionality that have to be covered by our specification is similar to the ECT (extension change-tracking) proposal [15:52]  Svante Schubert: which is equal to the feature set currently implemented by common ODF applications [15:53]  Svante Schubert: we are going to specify the status quo [16:03]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: our wiki front page: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Advanced%20Document%20Collaboration [16:07]  Svante Schubert: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/index.php [16:07]  Svante Schubert: There is a document section, where you might take a look at the latest documents [16:08]  Svante Schubert: There you will find as well the ECT proposals, covering the default feature set, I mentioned earlier [16:09]  Svante Schubert: Thorsten asks Luke about the status of the Calligra implementation [16:10]  Svante Schubert: Thorsten asks to have some prototype to be able to 'play' around, to have something to test in parallel while the spec is written [16:12]  Svante Schubert: Luke already got text operations within the characters up and running that output the changes to an XML file to the location you are running the binary from [16:13]  Svante Schubert: Peter is giving his status [16:13]  Svante Schubert: on his prototype [16:22]  Svante Schubert: He make progress, but there is a problem with styles, which is implementation dependent and will be clarified on an office implementation list [16:23]  Peter Rakyta- MultiRacio Ltd.: yes, thats the case [16:29]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: EuroOffice based on LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice [16:29]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: ? [16:30]  Svante Schubert: Peter: The extension of Peter is based on Apache OpenOffice, but work with both [16:30]  Svante Schubert: The lastest version of EuroOffice was based on LibreOffice [16:31]  Svante Schubert: In the operations there will be no automatic style names, only template style names. [16:32]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: ok. Thus, Peter's extension do not need to access the names of automatic styles via the OO/LO UNO-API [16:32]  Svante Schubert: As automatic style names only exist within a document [16:33]  Svante Schubert: Our next meeting will be in about two weeks on the 14th of August: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=8&day=14&hour=13&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800 https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=33775 [16:34]  Svante Schubert: byebye