Minutes of the XLIFF Technical Committee - June 12th. 2002 Thanks to Tony for minutes after I had to leave the meeting. 1/ Roll Call Present: Jonathan Clark, Tony Jewtushenko, Christian Lieske, John Reid, Peter Reynolds, Yves Saourel, Reinhard Schaler, Gérard Cattin des Bois, Mirek Driml. Apologies: John Corrigan, Matt Lovatt, David Leland, Mark Levins, Eric Freidman. Observer: David Pooley The meeting noted that John Corrigan will be on a leave of absence. The first 45 days of this are agreed automatically and after this the TC can vote on extending it. 2/ Minutes of previous meeting were agreed. 3/ Meeting Quorum - Tony emphasized the need for people to regularly attend the meeting as we need a quorum in order to make decisions. It was agreed that we should review the quorum and how we deal with people who have stopped attending but are still listed as members. Tony will arrange a meeting with Jonathan and Peter. 4/ David Pooley of SDL was welcomed to the XLIFF TC. David is responsible for SDL's desktop tools such as SDLX. 5/ Spec 1.1 Work in Progress We agreed to go through this one doc at a time and when the main proposer of a particular item was not present we would postpone this to a future meeting. Spec 1.1 refinements Count element There was a discussion on the count element where we agreed that more information was needed in order to know information such as the tool, tool version, and algorithm used in producing the count. It was agreed that there would be a tools element which would be a child of the header element and this could be referenced by other elements such as <count and <alt-trans. John Reid will produce a proposal for how this could be done. Group element There was a debate on a number of issues concerning the group element. It was agreed that there was a possibility that there might be certain circumstances where an empty body element was needed (ie, when want to update metadata, but not localisation data). It was also agreed that we should not change element names where possible as this will effect migration issues. It was agreed that we should implement the following: * We should not have an empty group element. * There should be no changes in the names. * The header element should be optional * Child elements should have the same order. Word Separator: Meeting came to the conclusion that this proposal is more appropriate to discuss within a larger "segmentation" discussion, even though a "word break" fundementally is fundementally different than a "segment break". Discussion to continue via email. Reformat Element: Proposal 1: John Reid noted that the the list of attributes controlled by Reformat attribute should not be closed. Gerard pointed out that the paradigm for describing resource attributes may change in the future, and closing a such a list may result in future incompatibility. Tony agreed, and suggested that the word "closed" be struck off the proposal, and suggested that a a list of presently known attribute values be defined, but that the list be user extensible. Proposal 2 & Proposal 3: Mat was to provide code examples, and a more detailed write up. Group will further evaluate these proposals once sample code is provided. Embedded XLIFF (Gerard's proposal): No time for discussion, so will continue via email. 6/XLIFF 1.1 Schedule Spec Draft 1 date appears to be unattainable, given current rate of progress. Suggestion to increase meeting frequency from fortnightly to weekly not possible due to conflicting committments. Suggestion to use mailing list to conduct discussions will be implemented. Adjustment to schedule will be discussed at the next meeting. 7. Next meeting date / time = Tuesday 25 June, 4pm London / 11am EST / 8am PST Peter Reynolds, Software Development Manager, Berlitz GlobalNET 3, West Pier Business Campus, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, Ireland Tel: +353-1-202-1280 Fax: +353-1- 202-1299 Web Site: http//www.berlitzglobalnet.com "Don't just translate it, BerlitzIT" http//www.berlitzIT.com