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Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

  • 1.  Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:27
    Skydrive folder for review of specifications Ralf has a folder to share with you on SkyDrive. To view it, click the link below. OData-TC-Review Share your files with


  • 2.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:34
    Hi Ralf -  I have to ask you the purpose of this folder. It looks like a place where you want to share work products having to do with the OData public review.  Best,  /chet  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Ralf Handl < ralf.handl@sap.com > wrote: Skydrive folder for review of specifications Ralf has a folder to share with you on SkyDrive. To view it, click the link below. OData-TC-Review Share your files with -- /chet  ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration  OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393  Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html   TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn:     http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter:         http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook:   http://facebook.com/oasis.open


  • 3.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:38
    Hi Chet, my understanding is, that we need a place shared among the tc members to prepare "in boost mode" the documents later input to a public review stage. The storage is **not** for the public review itself. I hope this helps, Stefan. Am 04.04.13 17:33, schrieb Chet Ensign: Hi Ralf - I have to ask you the purpose of this folder. It looks like a place where you want to share work products having to do with the OData public review. Best, /chet On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Ralf Handl <ralf.handl@sap.com < mailto:ralf.handl@sap.com >> wrote: Skydrive folder for review of specifications Ralf has a folder < https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=17ea5a0da4145c51&page=view&resid=17EA5A0DA4145C51!165&parid=17EA5A0DA4145C51!104&authkey=!ArvL5csQSb-XYho&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&Bsrc=Share&sc=Documents > to share with you on SkyDrive. To view it, click the link below. < https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=17ea5a0da4145c51&page=self&resid=17EA5A0DA4145C51!165&parid=17EA5A0DA4145C51!104&authkey=!ArvL5csQSb-XYho&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&Bsrc=Share > OData-TC-Review < https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=17ea5a0da4145c51&page=self&resid=17EA5A0DA4145C51!165&parid=17EA5A0DA4145C51!104&authkey=!ArvL5csQSb-XYho&Bpub=SDX.SkyDrive&Bsrc=Share > Share your files with < http://g.live.com/9wc9en-us/f_photos > -- /chet ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open


  • 4.  RE: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:47
    Hi, I happen to notice this dialog. If it helps, this from the TC Process Policy: 2.8 TC Visibility The official copies of all resources of the TC and its associated Subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email lists and any other records of discussions, must be located only on facilities designated by OASIS. TCs and SCs may not conduct official business or technical discussions, store documents, or host web pages on servers or systems not designated by OASIS. All web pages, documents, ballot results and email archives of all TCs and SCs shall be publicly visible. Thanks, Paul
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  • 5.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:50
    Thanks Paul - that's the exact language!


  • 6.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:51
    Hi Paul, I am not a lawyer but see absolutely no impact of 2.8 TC Visibility on our procedure. We simply cannot force the editors and tc internal reviewers to sit around a single computer. So this is in my understanding just a decentralized editor interlan storage which nearly neer is on oasis systems. All output reviewions of such reviews wil for sure be stored as usual in kavi and/or SVN of oasis. All the best, Stefan. Am 04.04.13 17:46, schrieb Lipton, Paul C: Hi, I happen to notice this dialog. If it helps, this from the TC Process Policy: 2.8 TC Visibility The official copies of all resources of the TC and its associated Subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email lists and any other records of discussions, must be located only on facilities designated by OASIS. TCs and SCs may not conduct official business or technical discussions, store documents, or host web pages on servers or systems not designated by OASIS. All web pages, documents, ballot results and email archives of all TCs and SCs shall be publicly visible. Thanks, Paul
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  • 7.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:53
    So you are saying that this is a scratch pad basically?  On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Stefan Drees < stefan@drees.name > wrote: Hi Paul, I am not a lawyer but see absolutely no impact of 2.8 TC Visibility on our procedure. We simply cannot force the editors and tc internal reviewers to sit around a single computer. So this is in my understanding just a decentralized editor interlan storage which nearly neer is on oasis systems. All output reviewions of such reviews wil for sure be stored as usual in kavi and/or SVN of oasis. All the best, Stefan. Am 04.04.13 17:46, schrieb Lipton, Paul C: Hi, I happen to notice this dialog. If it helps, this from the TC Process Policy: 2.8 TC Visibility The official copies of all resources of the TC and its associated Subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email lists and any other records of discussions, must be located only on facilities designated by OASIS. TCs and SCs may not conduct official business or technical discussions, store documents, or host web pages on servers or systems not designated by OASIS. All web pages, documents, ballot results and email archives of all TCs and SCs shall be publicly visible. Thanks, Paul
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  • 8.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 15:55
    Exactly (sorry I am not a native english speaker) this is only a scratch pad! Thanks Chet. Am 04.04.13 17:52, schrieb Chet Ensign: So you are saying that this is a scratch pad basically? On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Stefan Drees <stefan@drees.name < mailto:stefan@drees.name >> wrote: Hi Paul, I am not a lawyer but see absolutely no impact of 2.8 TC Visibility on our procedure. We simply cannot force the editors and tc internal reviewers to sit around a single computer. So this is in my understanding just a decentralized editor interlan storage which nearly neer is on oasis systems. All output reviewions of such reviews wil for sure be stored as usual in kavi and/or SVN of oasis. All the best, Stefan. Am 04.04.13 17:46, schrieb Lipton, Paul C: Hi, I happen to notice this dialog. If it helps, this from the TC Process Policy: 2.8 TC Visibility The official copies of all resources of the TC and its associated Subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email lists and any other records of discussions, must be located only on facilities designated by OASIS. TCs and SCs may not conduct official business or technical discussions, store documents, or host web pages on servers or systems not designated by OASIS. All web pages, documents, ballot results and email archives of all TCs and SCs shall be publicly visible. Thanks, Paul
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  • 9.  Re: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 16:06
    Hi, Since the mails of this thread come in scrambled out of order (at least on my end) I would like to ensure with this mail, that there is a common understanding of our need and our workaround: We need a single document instance (per work product), that may be edited simultaneously from the members without loosing intermediate changes of other members/editors. These conflicts and unintended deletions would happen when using kavi and the revision download/upload cycle offered. SVN is also not the way to go here, since merges of word BIFF or office xml files upon commit are nearly never really intended, since these often simply destroy the document. So we put it on a shared drive and have mediated access to maxmize the simultaneously possible comments and change proposals (for wording typo removal etc.) If OASIS can offer such a feature, we will happily use this. Does this sound ok and decidable? All the best, Stefan. Am 04.04.13 17:54, schrieb Stefan Drees: Exactly (sorry I am not a native english speaker) this is only a scratch pad! Thanks Chet. Am 04.04.13 17:52, schrieb Chet Ensign: So you are saying that this is a scratch pad basically? On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Stefan Drees <stefan@drees.name < mailto:stefan@drees.name >> wrote: Hi Paul, I am not a lawyer but see absolutely no impact of 2.8 TC Visibility on our procedure. We simply cannot force the editors and tc internal reviewers to sit around a single computer. So this is in my understanding just a decentralized editor interlan storage which nearly neer is on oasis systems. All output reviewions of such reviews wil for sure be stored as usual in kavi and/or SVN of oasis. All the best, Stefan. Am 04.04.13 17:46, schrieb Lipton, Paul C: Hi, I happen to notice this dialog. If it helps, this from the TC Process Policy: 2.8 TC Visibility The official copies of all resources of the TC and its associated Subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email lists and any other records of discussions, must be located only on facilities designated by OASIS. TCs and SCs may not conduct official business or technical discussions, store documents, or host web pages on servers or systems not designated by OASIS. All web pages, documents, ballot results and email archives of all TCs and SCs shall be publicly visible. Thanks, Paul
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  • 10.  RE: [odata] Ralf Handl has shared a folder with you

    Posted 04-04-2013 17:37
    Hi, IMO, I think if you are just using it for a collaborative editing tool, sort of like a webex whiteboard, and you post the results of the editing session to Kavi afterwards so that they are not hidden from Kavi and the public after your editing sessions, you should be OK. Good luck with this approach. Regards, Paul
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