UBL Naming and Design Rules SC

Re: [ubl-ndrsc] Agenda for 6 February 2002 UBL NDR meeting

  • 1.  Re: [ubl-ndrsc] Agenda for 6 February 2002 UBL NDR meeting

    Posted 02-06-2002 09:35
    Oops, never mind.  I'm not as overloaded in this time slot as I thought - I've only two
    meetings scheduled instead of three.  I'll be on the call until a little before 9:00 AM
    PST.  Will scan the code list discussion again before the call.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Mike
    
    BTW - In X12 my proposal for joint approval with the UBL TC also seems to have gone over
    like a lead balloon...
    
    Mike Rawlins wrote:
    
    > I can't be on the call tomorrow due to conflicts with X12.  Even though I've not been
    > able to respond to the code list discussion (yet) because of X12, I am still very
    > interested in it and created the original paper.  If there's any way we can do it I
    > would prefer that we wait until next week to discuss that topic.
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > "Eve L. Maler" wrote:
    >
    > > We ARE MEETING tomorrow because enough people told me they could make it
    > > (even if we don't achieve quorum).  Note that I myself can't attend, but
    > > Mark will be there and will chair the meeting.  PLEASE arrive on time.
    > >
    > > NDR SC portal: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/
    > >
    > > We will meet by phone on Wednesday, 6 February 2002, at:
    > >
    > >    8-10am PT   (GMT -8)
    > >    11am-1pm ET (GMT -5)
    > >    5-7pm Eur   (GMT +1)
    > >
    > > Please use the following dial-in information, which will remain the same
    > > through at least March 27:
    > >
    > >    Toll-free (from the U.S.)         +1 888 232 0361
    > >    International access/caller-paid  +1 805 240 9673
    > >    Participant code                  165-412
    > >
    > > Agenda:
    > >
    > > 1. Roll call (till x:05)
    > >     See member list at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/
    > >
    > > 2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meetings (till x:06)
    > >
    > >     23-25 January 2002 F2F:
    > >     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200201/msg00050.html
    > >
    > >     30 January 2002 telecon:
    > >     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200201/msg00052.html
    > >
    > > 3. Adoption of agenda (please send suggestions *before* meeting) (till x:07)
    > >
    > > 4. Action item review (till x:09)
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Mark to update tag structure position paper.
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Sue and Maryann to do some use case brainstorming offline.
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Bill and Mavis to champion the URI/URN issue and determine an
    > >     approach.
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Everyone to critique modnamver UML diagram.
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Arofan, Tim, and Lisa to develop example based on current
    > >     thinking in library group and leveraging NDR stuff to see if it can
    > >     work. Anticipate certain part of the example will be ready for F2F
    > >     presentation.  (Was this about modnamver?)
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Namespace issues need to be raised to library committee for
    > >     joint resolution.  (Needs owner.)
    > >
    > >     ACTION: Gunther will finish some modifications to the elements vs.
    > >     attributes position paper and will post it by January 31.
    > >
    > > 5. Planning for March 11 deadline (till x:30)
    > >
    > >     We need a week-by-week schedule for issues to discuss/decide.  Here
    > >     is the start of a proposal:
    > >
    > >     - Feb 6:        Start code lists, start elements vs. attributes
    > >     - Feb 7-13:     Finish tag structure/data dictionary issues and code lists
    > >     - Feb 14-20:    Finish elements vs. attributes and ______________ (?)
    > >     - Feb 21-27:    ______________ (?)
    > >     - Feb 28-Mar 6: ______________ (?)
    > >     - Mar 7-9:      Final NDR document/position paper edits
    > >
    > > 6. Code list discussion (till y:15)
    > >     Position paper is at:
    > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/pos/draft-Rawlins-codelists-01.doc
    > >
    > >     What (very roughly) are our use cases driving our choice of solutions?
    > >     See this message for two alternative views:
    > >
    > >     http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200202/msg00000.html
    > >
    > >     What are our requirements around these areas, and in each case, do
    > >     internal vs. external code lists have different requirements?
    > >
    > >     - Validation of code list values through XSD vs. by other means
    > >     - Efficiency of expression in the instance
    > >     - Extensibility of code lists and when it is allowed/disallowed
    > >     - Subsetting of code lists
    > >     - Inclusion of dynamic sets of code list values
    > >     - Identifying, documenting, and versioning the code list used
    > >     - Combining values from internal and external code lists
    > >
    > >     If we can clarify all these items in this meeting, for next week we
    > >     can examine/choose among the various technical solutions that have
    > >     already been proposed in email.  We should plan on vigorous email
    > >     discussion.
    > >
    > > 7. Element vs. attribute discussion (till y:50)
    > >
    > >     Position paper is at:
    > > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/pos/draft-stuhec-elemvsattrib-01.doc
    > >
    > >     It seems that this decision has a "taste" component as well as sound
    > >     technical rationales.  Nonetheless, what are the requirements around:
    > >
    > >     - Extensibility
    > >     - Instance readability
    > >     - Semantic clarity (compatibility with the data dictionary framework)
    > >
    > >     Again, if we can clarify all these items in this meeting, for next
    > >     week we can examine/choose among the various technical solutions
    > >     that have already been proposed in email.
    > >
    > > 8. Action items and next steps (till y:59)
    > >
    > > 9. Adjourn (z:00)
    > > --
    > > Eve Maler                                    +1 781 442 3190
    > > Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center   eve.maler @ sun.com
    > >
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