OASIS Emergency Management TC

  • 1.  RE: [emergency] EDXL HAVE and NIEM 2.1 dictionary =?UTF-8?Q?alignment=3F?=

    Posted 07-13-2009 00:44
    Lee,

    I'm looking for one piece of XML - no xslt band-aiding and most certainly NOT one standard for use - and another for publication in the IEPD.  The schema et al in the IEPD should be identical to what is being used in actual production. 
     
    Thanks, DW




  • 2.  RE: [emergency] EDXL HAVE and NIEM 2.1 dictionary alignment?

    Posted 07-13-2009 11:24
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    This is a much more complicated issue than can  be discussed via email. The issue has been worked literally for years, and now again another effort to work with NIEM without them enforcing rules that do not work for this domain and without breaking EDXL standards.  We need to let the governance and this “pilot” that is being put forth to play out.  That governance is through a partnership between OIC and FEMA with the knowledge  and cooperation of OASIS and others that have tracked this issue for so long.  It may now get solved in 2.1 (or at least a path forward for governance and cooperation), but we’ll see.

    Thanks,

    Tim Grapes

    Evotec

    "When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt"

    - Henry J. Kaiser

    From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
    Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:44 PM
    To: Lee Tincher
    Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: RE: [emergency] EDXL HAVE and NIEM 2.1 dictionary alignment?

    Lee,

    I'm looking for one piece of XML - no xslt band-aiding and most certainly NOT one standard for use - and another for publication in the IEPD.  The schema et al in the IEPD should be identical to what is being used in actual production. 

     

    Thanks, DW


    Uhmmm – isn’t that exactly what I just said we are doing?

     

    Thanks,

    Lee

     

    "I was wondering why that Frisbee was getting bigger - then it hit me."

     

    From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
    Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:12 PM
    To: Lee Tincher
    Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: RE: [emergency] EDXL HAVE and NIEM 2.1 dictionary alignment?

     

    Lee,

     

    IMHO - that makes zero sense!  Band-aiding like that is nasty...

     

    Obviously best outcome is to put the HAVE pieces in NIEM 2.1

     

    Failing that - having an extended dictionary that includes the new HAVE pieces - so we can generate two wantlists.xml automatically.  One that works with the SSGT - and one that works locally - and will include the missing pieces as extensions.xsd into the subset schema.

     

    What we need poste haste though is the exact list of missing parts.  I have the cross-reference dictionary between EDXL HAVE and current NIEM 2.0 - that should work as pick list of things that need to be added.

     

    Thanks, DW