OASIS Emergency Management TC

  • 1.  Use Case

    Posted 04-17-2008 14:34
    
    TC Members,

    We would like to nail down the TC's consensus on what constitutes a "Use case" in our Standards.  Most of you have been aware of this topic but we have not nailed down a position.  We must do this before we can make the big push to get use cases for HAVE and RM. 

    This topic came up during the EIC meeting yesterday.  There are several EIC members that know of companies that may want to be the first or one of the first to advertise such a use case.  We need to give them specific wording on what constitutes this "use".  OASIS requires the statement to be in agreement with the conformance clause of the specification.  We as a TC can cause this to be more or less stringent and there are schools of thought on both. 

    Please review the two positions on the matter identified below and respond to the list on your preference.  Although this does not require a formal vote of the TC, I want to make sure we have a good understanding and consensus on how we proceed.

    Position 1:
    • Comply with the full element reference model - required elements at a minimum.  If a message is sent that complies with the ERM, then you can be compliant with any of the specific messages.
    • Deliver a RequestResource message and a ResponsetoRequestResource message (just 2 messages).
    If a vendor does either or, for purposes of statement of use and getting the standard out the door, this should be the minimum requirement.

    Position 2:
    • Agreed with position 1
    • A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource Deployment should be the minimum:
    RequestResource >
    ResponseToRequestResource >
    RequisitionResource >
    CommitResource >
    ReleaseResource.

    The messages about the deployment, requesting information, release, etc are not necessary, just the 5 listed.

    NOW - please make your comments to the list.  The Mst/Not SC will schedule a meeting either Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.  From this a recommendation will be made.  Respond to this message too with which date and what times you would be available.

    Regards,
    Elysa Jones
    Chair, OASIS EM-TC
    CTO/COO
    Warning Systems, Inc.


  • 2.  Re: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-17-2008 15:05
    Hi everyone,

      I'm probably jumping into a conversation where I shouldn't, but from what I'm reading it sounds like you're attempting to define levels of conformance, which should be included in the specification's Conformance Statement section. Take a peek at the document prepared by the OASIS Conformance TC a few years back and you'll see a good discussion around establishing such levels of conformance.

    Regards,

    Mary

    On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Elysa Jones <ejones@warningsystems.com> wrote:
    TC Members,

    We would like to nail down the TC's consensus on what constitutes a "Use case" in our Standards.  Most of you have been aware of this topic but we have not nailed down a position.  We must do this before we can make the big push to get use cases for HAVE and RM. 

    This topic came up during the EIC meeting yesterday.  There are several EIC members that know of companies that may want to be the first or one of the first to advertise such a use case.  We need to give them specific wording on what constitutes this "use".  OASIS requires the statement to be in agreement with the conformance clause of the specification.  We as a TC can cause this to be more or less stringent and there are schools of thought on both. 

    Please review the two positions on the matter identified below and respond to the list on your preference.  Although this does not require a formal vote of the TC, I want to make sure we have a good understanding and consensus on how we proceed.

    Position 1:
    • Comply with the full element reference model - required elements at a minimum.  If a message is sent that complies with the ERM, then you can be compliant with any of the specific messages.
    • Deliver a RequestResource message and a ResponsetoRequestResource message (just 2 messages).
    If a vendor does either or, for purposes of statement of use and getting the standard out the door, this should be the minimum requirement.

    Position 2:
    • Agreed with position 1
    • A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource Deployment should be the minimum:
    RequestResource >
    ResponseToRequestResource >
    RequisitionResource >
    CommitResource >
    ReleaseResource.

    The messages about the deployment, requesting information, release, etc are not necessary, just the 5 listed.

    NOW - please make your comments to the list.  The Mst/Not SC will schedule a meeting either Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.  From this a recommendation will be made.  Respond to this message too with which date and what times you would be available.

    Regards,
    Elysa Jones
    Chair, OASIS EM-TC
    CTO/COO
    Warning Systems, Inc.



    --
    Mary P McRae
    Manager of TC Administration, OASIS
    mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
    voip: 603.232.9090


  • 3.  RE: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-17-2008 15:08
    In my view this is straightforward.  The statement of use should be strictly
    based upon the conformance clause.  We can't set requirements for a
    statement of use that are more stringent than the conformance requirements
    specified in the standard itself.  
    
    If the conformance section of a standard says that an implementation "X" is
    conformant if and only if it does "Y", then all that the statement of use
    really needs to say is something like, "Here is an implementation X of this
    standard, which I certify to be conformant to the standard".  
    
    If the standard specifies multiple conformance targets, the statement of use
    needs to say which target is being referred to.
    
    If the standard specifies multiple conformance classes or levels, the
    statement of use needs to say which conformance class or conformance level
    is being referred to.
    
    In other words, in my view, a statement of use should simply state that the
    OASIS member organization has created an implementation of a standard and
    should contain a conformance claim about that implementation.  Like any
    other conformance claim, that conformance claim should simply and very
    clearly reference the particular conformance target, conformance class,
    conformance level, and any conformance options that are specified in the
    standard (if any).
    
    The conformance section of RM (as of today) doesn't say that implementations
    must support a complete lifecycle of a successful resource deployment.
    Therefore we cannot impose that kind of requirement on the statement of use.
    If the TC believes that all implementations of RM should really support a
    complete lifecycle of a successful resource deployment, then we should
    change the standard to specify that requirement either in the conformance
    section or elsewhere.
    
    Alessandro
    
     
    
    > 


  • 4.  RE: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-17-2008 16:14
    Good argument, and for now, I have to agree, but I'm reading the 
    document Mary referred to see what it says about any possible 
    difference or distinction between conformace in what is implemented 
    and how much of a specification needs to be implemented.
    
    Cheers,
    Rex
    
    At 11:07 AM -0400 4/17/08, Alessandro Triglia wrote:
    >In my view this is straightforward.  The statement of use should be strictly
    >based upon the conformance clause.  We can't set requirements for a
    >statement of use that are more stringent than the conformance requirements
    >specified in the standard itself. 
    >
    >If the conformance section of a standard says that an implementation "X" is
    >conformant if and only if it does "Y", then all that the statement of use
    >really needs to say is something like, "Here is an implementation X of this
    >standard, which I certify to be conformant to the standard". 
    >
    >If the standard specifies multiple conformance targets, the statement of use
    >needs to say which target is being referred to.
    >
    >If the standard specifies multiple conformance classes or levels, the
    >statement of use needs to say which conformance class or conformance level
    >is being referred to.
    >
    >In other words, in my view, a statement of use should simply state that the
    >OASIS member organization has created an implementation of a standard and
    >should contain a conformance claim about that implementation.  Like any
    >other conformance claim, that conformance claim should simply and very
    >clearly reference the particular conformance target, conformance class,
    >conformance level, and any conformance options that are specified in the
    >standard (if any).
    >
    >The conformance section of RM (as of today) doesn't say that implementations
    >must support a complete lifecycle of a successful resource deployment.
    >Therefore we cannot impose that kind of requirement on the statement of use.
    >If the TC believes that all implementations of RM should really support a
    >complete lifecycle of a successful resource deployment, then we should
    >change the standard to specify that requirement either in the conformance
    >section or elsewhere.
    >
    >Alessandro
    >
    >
    >
    >>  


  • 5.  RE: EDXL-RM Statement Of Use

    Posted 04-17-2008 18:32
    
    
    
    
    


  • 6.  RE: EDXL-RM Statement Of Use

    Posted 04-17-2008 19:05
    Hi All,
    
    I'm for Friday, any time, but I can do Monday if needs be.
    
    Cheers,
    Rex
    
    At 2:04 PM -0400 4/17/08, Timothy Grapes wrote:
    >I think fantastic points are being made and we 
    >have the foundation to move forward, but that we 
    >should convene a conference call to finalize 
    >discussion and determine appropriate steps and 
    >communication.  Part of the catalyst here was to 
    >publish a "plea" to the membership for companies 
    >to provide RM Statements of Use, in order to 
    >track progress as the standard nears the finish 
    >line.  We need to agree on how that request 
    >should be written.
    >
    >Could everyone interested in participating in 
    >defining this approach and next step please 
    >reply with your preference for FRIDAY or MONDAY, 
    >please?
    >
    >For convenience I have pasted the EDXL-RM 
    >conformance section below.  I am actually 
    >advocating that any implementation of the 
    >standard that adheres to this section would 
    >equal a valid Statement of Use.  Recall that the 
    >Level 1 and 2 Conformance options do address the 
    >overall Element Reference Model, and then the 
    >individual messages, but does not specify 
    >specific ones or some minimum set.  Though I 
    >agree with Rex's desire regarding a "complete 
    >lifecycle of a successful resource deployment", 
    >this is not applicable for Statement of Use 
    >purposes, and that "complete lifecycle" may not 
    >fully apply to the business processes of some 
    >companies and their applications.  That's an 
    >important objective ASAP, but I feel that 
    >getting the draft standard through the process 
    >and published is paramount in the immediate term.
    >
    >My 2-cents.  Let me know a day/time as we'll set it up.
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Tim
    >
    >1        Conformance
    >
    >1.1 Conformance Targets
    >
    >The two following conformance targets are 
    >defined in order to support the specification of 
    >conformance to this standard:
    >
    >EDXL-RM Message; and
    >
    >
    >EDXL-RM Message Producer.
    >
    >An EDXL-RM Message is an XML 1.0 element 
    >whose syntax and semantics are specified in this 
    >standard. An EDXL-RM Message Producer is a 
    >software entity that produces EDXL-RM Messages.
    >NOTE   There is no conformance target 
    >corresponding to the consumers of EDXL-RM 
    >messages. All the existing requirements for the 
    >consumption of an incoming EDXL-RM message are, 
    >in fact, requirements on the type and content of 
    >the EDXL-RM message that is produced by the 
    >consumer in reply to that message (if any). 
    >Therefore, a conforming EDXL-RM Message Producer 
    >(as defined in Section 5.4) will necessarily 
    >meet all the existing requirements for the 
    >production as well as for the consumption of 
    >EDXL-RM messages.
    >
    >1.2 Conformance Levels
    >
    >The two following conformance levels are defined for EDXL-RM Messages:
    >
    >Level-1 EDXL-RM Message; and
    >Level-2 EDXL-RM Message.
    >NOTE   The conformance requirements for Level-1 
    >and Level-2 EDXL-RM Messages are given in 
    >Section 5.3, and summarized here. A Level-1 
    >EDXL-RM Message is either one of the 16 resource 
    >message elements specified in sections 3.4 to 
    >3.19, or a different element (with a different 
    >namespace name and an arbitrary local name) 
    >whose type is the complex type 
    >"EDXLResourceMessageReferenceType" specified in 
    >Section 4.1.1. A Level-2 EDXL-RM Message is 
    >restricted to be one of the 16 resource message 
    >elements specified in sections 3.4 to 3.19. 
    >Every Level-2 EDXL-RM Message is also a 
    >conforming Level-1 EDXL-RM Message.
    >The two following conformance levels are defined 
    >for EDXL-RM Message Producers:
    >
    >Level-1 EDXL-RM Message Producer; and
    >Level-2 EDXL-RM Message Producer.
    >NOTE   The conformance requirements for Level-1 
    >and Level-2 EDXL-RM Message Producers are given 
    >in Section 5.4, and summarized here. A Level-1 
    >EDXL-RM Message Producer is a software entity 
    >that produces conforming (Level-1) EDXL-RM 
    >Messages whenever a (Level-1) EDXL-RM Message is 
    >expected. A Level-2 EDXL-RM Message Producer is 
    >a software entity that only produces Level-2 
    >EDXL-RM Messages whenever a Level-2 EDXL-RM 
    >Message is expected. Every Level-2 EDXL-RM 
    >Message Producer is also a conforming Level-1 
    >EDXL-RM Message Producer.
    >
    >1.3 Conformance as an EDXL-RM Message
    >
    >1.3.1 Level-1 EDXL-RM Message
    >
    >An XML 1.0 element is a conforming Level-1 EDXL-RM Message if and only if:
    >a)      it meets the general requirements specified in Section 3.3;
    >
    >b)      if its namespace name is 
    >"urn:oasis:names:tc:emergency:EDXL:RM:1.0:msg", 
    >then its local name is one of the 16 resource 
    >message type names specified in sections 3.4 to 
    >3.19 (also listed in Table 1), and the element 
    >is valid according to the schema located at
    >


  • 7.  RE: EDXL-RM Statement Of Use

    Posted 04-17-2008 21:13
     
    
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  • 8.  RE: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-17-2008 20:51
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Just a note – all Drafts coming in from DHS through EC will have Use Cases and several Scenarios attached as part of the documentation set……

    Thanks,

    Lee

    'There are only two ways that you can live life.  One is as if nothing is a miracle.  The other is as if everything is a miracle. I believe in the latter' - Albert Einstien


    From: Elysa Jones [mailto:ejones@warningsystems.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:30 AM
    To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [emergency] Use Case

    TC Members,

    We would like to nail down the TC's consensus on what constitutes a "Use case" in our Standards.  Most of you have been aware of this topic but we have not nailed down a position.  We must do this before we can make the big push to get use cases for HAVE and RM. 

    This topic came up during the EIC meeting yesterday.  There are several EIC members that know of companies that may want to be the first or one of the first to advertise such a use case.  We need to give them specific wording on what constitutes this "use".  OASIS requires the statement to be in agreement with the conformance clause of the specification.  We as a TC can cause this to be more or less stringent and there are schools of thought on both. 

    Please review the two positions on the matter identified below and respond to the list on your preference.  Although this does not require a formal vote of the TC, I want to make sure we have a good understanding and consensus on how we proceed.

    Position 1:

    • Comply with the full element reference model - required elements at a minimum.  If a message is sent that complies with the ERM, then you can be compliant with any of the specific messages.
    • Deliver a RequestResource message and a ResponsetoRequestResource message (just 2 messages).

    If a vendor does either or, for purposes of statement of use and getting the standard out the door, this should be the minimum requirement.

    Position 2:

    • Agreed with position 1
    • A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource Deployment should be the minimum:

    RequestResource >
    ResponseToRequestResource >
    RequisitionResource >
    CommitResource >
    ReleaseResource.

    The messages about the deployment, requesting information, release, etc are not necessary, just the 5 listed.

    NOW - please make your comments to the list.  The Mst/Not SC will schedule a meeting either Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.  From this a recommendation will be made.  Respond to this message too with which date and what times you would be available.

    Regards,
    Elysa Jones
    Chair, OASIS EM-TC
    CTO/COO
    Warning Systems, Inc.



  • 9.  RE: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-18-2008 02:43
    Thanks Lee,
    
    I'm fairly sure Elysa meant "Statement of Use" 
    not "Use Cases," especially not UML Use Cases.
    
    As a side question, can you work with a Java 
    Server Faces EDXL-RM application? I'm asking 
    because I want to provide the application I'm 
    working on (rather infrequently just now) in open 
    source for other folks to adapt, extend and/or 
    complete. I'm using NetBeans 6.0 as my IDE, and 
    JSF is just easier and more reliable than vanilla 
    JSP.
    
    Cheers,
    Rex
    
    At 4:50 PM -0400 4/17/08, Lee Tincher wrote:
    >Just a note - all Drafts coming in from DHS 
    >through EC will have Use Cases and several 
    >Scenarios attached as part of the documentation 
    >setŠŠ
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Lee
    >'There are only two ways that you can live life. 
    >One is as if nothing is a miracle.  The other is 
    >as if everything is a miracle. I believe in the 
    >latter' - Albert Einstien
    >
    >From: Elysa Jones [mailto:ejones@warningsystems.com]
    >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:30 AM
    >To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    >Subject: [emergency] Use Case
    >
    >TC Members,
    >
    >We would like to nail down the TC's consensus on 
    >what constitutes a "Use case" in our Standards. 
    >Most of you have been aware of this topic but we 
    >have not nailed down a position.  We must do 
    >this before we can make the big push to get use 
    >cases for HAVE and RM. 
    >
    >This topic came up during the EIC meeting 
    >yesterday.  There are several EIC members that 
    >know of companies that may want to be the first 
    >or one of the first to advertise such a use 
    >case.  We need to give them specific wording on 
    >what constitutes this "use".  OASIS requires the 
    >statement to be in agreement with the 
    >conformance clause of the specification.  We as 
    >a TC can cause this to be more or less stringent 
    >and there are schools of thought on both. 
    >
    >Please review the two positions on the matter 
    >identified below and respond to the list on your 
    >preference.  Although this does not require a 
    >formal vote of the TC, I want to make sure we 
    >have a good understanding and consensus on how 
    >we proceed.
    >
    >Position 1:
    >
    >Comply with the full element reference model - 
    >required elements at a minimum.  If a message is 
    >sent that complies with the ERM, then you can be 
    >compliant with any of the specific messages.
    >Deliver a RequestResource message and a 
    >ResponsetoRequestResource message (just 2 
    >messages).
    >If a vendor does either or, for purposes of 
    >statement of use and getting the standard out 
    >the door, this should be the minimum requirement.
    >
    >Position 2:
    >
    >Agreed with position 1
    >A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource 
    >Deployment should be the minimum:
    >RequestResource >
    >ResponseToRequestResource >
    >RequisitionResource >
    >CommitResource >
    >ReleaseResource.
    >
    >The messages about the deployment, requesting 
    >information, release, etc are not necessary, 
    >just the 5 listed.
    >
    >NOW - please make your comments to the list. 
    >The Mst/Not SC will schedule a meeting either 
    >Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.  From this 
    >a recommendation will be made.  Respond to this 
    >message too with which date and what times you 
    >would be available.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Elysa Jones
    >Chair, OASIS EM-TC
    >CTO/COO
    >Warning Systems, Inc.
    
    
    -- 
    Rex Brooks
    President, CEO
    Starbourne Communications Design
    GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
    Berkeley, CA 94702
    Tel: 510-898-0670
    


  • 10.  RE: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-18-2008 02:59
    Yes, I meant "Statement of Use"  Elysa
    
    At 09:42 PM 4/17/2008, Rex Brooks wrote:
    >Thanks Lee,
    >
    >I'm fairly sure Elysa meant "Statement of Use" 
    >not "Use Cases," especially not UML Use Cases.
    >
    >As a side question, can you work with a Java 
    >Server Faces EDXL-RM application? I'm asking 
    >because I want to provide the application I'm 
    >working on (rather infrequently just now) in 
    >open source for other folks to adapt, extend 
    >and/or complete. I'm using NetBeans 6.0 as my 
    >IDE, and JSF is just easier and more reliable than vanilla JSP.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Rex
    >
    >At 4:50 PM -0400 4/17/08, Lee Tincher wrote:
    >>Just a note - all Drafts coming in from DHS 
    >>through EC will have Use Cases and several 
    >>Scenarios attached as part of the documentation setŠŠ
    >>
    >>Thanks,
    >>Lee
    >>'There are only two ways that you can live 
    >>life. One is as if nothing is a miracle.  The 
    >>other is as if everything is a miracle. I 
    >>believe in the latter' - Albert Einstien
    >>
    >>From: Elysa Jones [mailto:ejones@warningsystems.com]
    >>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:30 AM
    >>To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    >>Subject: [emergency] Use Case
    >>
    >>TC Members,
    >>
    >>We would like to nail down the TC's consensus 
    >>on what constitutes a "Use case" in our 
    >>Standards. Most of you have been aware of this 
    >>topic but we have not nailed down a 
    >>position.  We must do this before we can make 
    >>the big push to get use cases for HAVE and RM.
    >>This topic came up during the EIC meeting 
    >>yesterday.  There are several EIC members that 
    >>know of companies that may want to be the first 
    >>or one of the first to advertise such a use 
    >>case.  We need to give them specific wording on 
    >>what constitutes this "use".  OASIS requires 
    >>the statement to be in agreement with the 
    >>conformance clause of the specification.  We as 
    >>a TC can cause this to be more or less 
    >>stringent and there are schools of thought on both.
    >>Please review the two positions on the matter 
    >>identified below and respond to the list on 
    >>your preference.  Although this does not 
    >>require a formal vote of the TC, I want to make 
    >>sure we have a good understanding and consensus on how we proceed.
    >>
    >>Position 1:
    >>
    >>Comply with the full element reference model - 
    >>required elements at a minimum.  If a message 
    >>is sent that complies with the ERM, then you 
    >>can be compliant with any of the specific messages.
    >>Deliver a RequestResource message and a 
    >>ResponsetoRequestResource message (just 2 messages).
    >>If a vendor does either or, for purposes of 
    >>statement of use and getting the standard out 
    >>the door, this should be the minimum requirement.
    >>
    >>Position 2:
    >>
    >>Agreed with position 1
    >>A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource 
    >>Deployment should be the minimum:
    >>RequestResource >
    >>ResponseToRequestResource >
    >>RequisitionResource >
    >>CommitResource >
    >>ReleaseResource.
    >>
    >>The messages about the deployment, requesting 
    >>information, release, etc are not necessary, just the 5 listed.
    >>
    >>NOW - please make your comments to the list. 
    >>The Mst/Not SC will schedule a meeting either 
    >>Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.  From this 
    >>a recommendation will be made.  Respond to this 
    >>message too with which date and what times you would be available.
    >>
    >>Regards,
    >>Elysa Jones
    >>Chair, OASIS EM-TC
    >>CTO/COO
    >>Warning Systems, Inc.
    >
    >
    >--
    >Rex Brooks
    >President, CEO
    >Starbourne Communications Design
    >GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
    >Berkeley, CA 94702
    >Tel: 510-898-0670
    
    


  • 11.  RE: [emergency] Use Case

    Posted 04-17-2008 21:04
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Elysa et al

    We did nail down a position for HAVE – the Statement of Use will be based on the conformance section in the Standard. For HAVE, we have defined the conformance targets and provided a definition of a ‘conformance target’

    I am not sure why we are revisiting this issue - the below positions seem to be specific to RM, and if so, it should dealt in the conformance section for RM. I will let the MSG SC members weigh in on this – but, I am sure they have discussed this to some extent. I am not in favor of overloading the statement of use.

    Thanks

    Sukumar


    From: Elysa Jones [mailto:ejones@warningsystems.com]
    Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:30 AM
    To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [emergency] Use Case

    TC Members,

    We would like to nail down the TC's consensus on what constitutes a "Use case" in our Standards.  Most of you have been aware of this topic but we have not nailed down a position.  We must do this before we can make the big push to get use cases for HAVE and RM. 

    This topic came up during the EIC meeting yesterday.  There are several EIC members that know of companies that may want to be the first or one of the first to advertise such a use case.  We need to give them specific wording on what constitutes this "use".  OASIS requires the statement to be in agreement with the conformance clause of the specification.  We as a TC can cause this to be more or less stringent and there are schools of thought on both. 

    Please review the two positions on the matter identified below and respond to the list on your preference.  Although this does not require a formal vote of the TC, I want to make sure we have a good understanding and consensus on how we proceed.

    Position 1:

    • Comply with the full element reference model - required elements at a minimum.  If a message is sent that complies with the ERM, then you can be compliant with any of the specific messages.
    • Deliver a RequestResource message and a ResponsetoRequestResource message (just 2 messages).

    If a vendor does either or, for purposes of statement of use and getting the standard out the door, this should be the minimum requirement.

    Position 2:

    • Agreed with position 1
    • A complete lifecycle of a "successful" Resource Deployment should be the minimum:

    RequestResource >
    ResponseToRequestResource >
    RequisitionResource >
    CommitResource >
    ReleaseResource.

    The messages about the deployment, requesting information, release, etc are not necessary, just the 5 listed.

    NOW - please make your comments to the list.  The Mst/Not SC will schedule a meeting either Fri (4/18) or Mon (4/21) to discuss.  From this a recommendation will be made.  Respond to this message too with which date and what times you would be available.

    Regards,
    Elysa Jones
    Chair, OASIS EM-TC
    CTO/COO
    Warning Systems, Inc.