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RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R602]

  • 1.  RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R602]

    Posted 05-08-2002 21:19
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    Subject: RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R602]


    Title: RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R602]
    Um, okay, I guess. I'm marginally happier with ECMAScript.

    It doesn't make sense to fuss over it, but if a browser can display it and an end user can interact with it, propagating an action back up the chain, we have to deal with it. Even just saying that it isn't popular enough for consideration is dealing with it. Staying with Client Side in this requirement is okay with me. Is that a general consensus?

    Regardless, the point I was making was not really about languages that some of my clients and associates insist on using, which requires me to use them the same way that the ubiquity of Wintel programs requires me to use them. The point was using the "MUST NOT preclude..." construction. I shoulda left it at that, but the question illustrated the "What about this, that and the other thing..." generic reaction to "enabling" something without specifically mentioning every marginally popular language or protocol as well.

    Harmonizing with W3C seems like a good idea, too.

    Ciao,
    Rex

    At 3:28 PM -0700 5/8/02, Sean Fitts wrote:
    This requirement opens with the phrase (emphasis mine):

    "This specification must support common *Presentation* formats..."

    To me that means that this requirement is specifically addressing
    what will be emitted for eventual consumption by an end client (for
    instance the browser).

    I don't think we want to confuse the issue by also bringing server
    side scripting languages into the mix (they may need to be addressed
    as part of another requirement, but I'd prefer to keep this one focused
    on the delivery side).

    That said, Brian's original question is an interesting one.  I don't know
    of other, client side scripting languages that are widely supported in
    the market.  I know that IE supports Visual Basic as a client side
    scripting language and will presumably support C# as part of its ..NET
    initiative.  However, I think that we should stick to standardized
    technologies.

    Perhaps it would be better to change JavaScript to ECMAScript (which
    is I believe how the W3C refers to it).

    Sean




    At 03:07 PM 5/8/2002 -0700, Rex Brooks wrote:
    I have the same concern, but I am assuming that the first paragraph covers such languages as Perl for CGI and Python, but while we are at it, should we consider adding an e.g. in that first paragraph so that stipulating Javascript is understood as standing on par with binaries as obvious? And since we are already specifying CSS and fragments, I have a personal interest in seeing support PHP as well ASP and JSP. This is exactly what I meant by saying that I prefer using the MUST NOT preclude phrasing, for now, and establishing a sample implementation and reference implementations from which to conduct conformance testing by rev 2... or 3.

    Ciao,
    Rex

    At 2:53 PM -0700 5/8/02, Young, Brian R wrote:
    What about support for scripting languages other than JavaScript?
     
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