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Re: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure

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    Posted 04-24-2002 10:35
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    Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] FW: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure


    
    We don't require a CPA in messaging.  We expended a great deal of time and
    effort to make sure that the MSG spec is correct while not requiring a CPA.
    Whether you want to advise users to configure their systems manually
    instead of using a CPA is an entirely different question.
    
    It won't serve anyone well to pull V2 back from the OASIS approval process
    at this point if that's what you have in mind.
    
    Regards,
    Marty
    
    *************************************************************************************
    
    Martin W. Sachs
    IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
    P. O. B. 704
    Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
    914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
    Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
    Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
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                          David Fischer                                                                                                        
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    We need to seriously consider whether we require CPPA in Messaging.  If IBM
    requires a license to use CPPA, that could easily transfer to Messaging
    based
    upon this requirement.
    
    Regards,
    
    David Fischer
    Drummond Group.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Fischer [mailto:david@drummondgroup.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:45 AM
    To: ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Rik Drummond
    Subject: RE: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure
    
    
    I logged on this morning to vote yes on the specification.  Now I am going
    to
    abstain.
    
    I gather that the very existence of this technology is what IBM claims and
    there
    is nothing we can change in the specification to obviate IBMs claim -- they
    claim the whole document even though they had a minor role in developing
    it.
    
    IBM is going to require anyone who uses CPPA to obtain a license?  This
    makes
    IBM the owner of CPPA!  Marty has assured us that the cost will be zero,
    yet IBM
    is not willing to make this assurance in writing.  Rest assured then, the
    cost
    will not always be zero.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    David Fischer
    Drummond Group.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Martin W Sachs [mailto:mwsachs@us.ibm.com]
    Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 6:09 PM
    To: ebxml-cppa@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [ebxml-cppa] IBM patent disclosure
    
    
    
    Regarding the question in the minutes of whether someone must apply for a
    license for the IBM patents, I have checked on the answer.  The answer is
    yes.  If a company believes that their CPPA implementation may be covered
    by the IBM patents, the procedure is to apply to IBM for a license.  There
    will be no fee for the license.
    
    Regards,
    Marty
    
    ********************************************************************************
    
    *****
    
    Martin W. Sachs
    IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
    P. O. B. 704
    Yorktown Hts, NY 10598
    914-784-7287;  IBM tie line 863-7287
    Notes address:  Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM
    Internet address:  mwsachs @ us.ibm.com
    ********************************************************************************
    
    *****
    ----- Forwarded by Martin W Sachs/Watson/IBM on 04/19/2002 07:03 PM -----
    
    
                          Peter Ogden
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                                                   Subject:  [ebxml-cppa] CPPA
    conference call minutes - 2002/04/19
                          04/19/2002 06:30
                          PM
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Here are my notes  from today's conference call. Please advise if any
    corrections are  needed.
    
    Peter
    
    
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    on 19 April 2002 by Martin W Sachs ****
    
    
    
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