OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

  • 1.  [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04(revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 09:44 
    * Rollcall
Jun Ma, Beijing Redflag Chinese 2000 Software Co., Ltd.
Warren Turkal, Google Inc.
Mingfei Jia, IBM
Yue Ma, IBM
Robert Weir, IBM
Patrick Durusau
David Wheeler, Institute for Defense Analyses
Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
Florian Reuter, Novell
Jomar Silva, OpenDocument Format Alliance (ODFA)
Bob Jolliffe, South Africa Dept. of Science & Technology
Michael Brauer, Sun Microsystems (presiding)
Eike Rathke, Sun Microsystems


* 11/12 voting members present, so quorum requirements have been met.

* The agenda was approved.

* Minutes from 2008-07-28 coordination call:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200807/msg00236.html

The attending TC members unanimously accepted the minutes.


* Action Items as listed at
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/members/action_items.php

Listed are only those items where an update is available.

#0009: Numbered paragraph/list errata for ODF 1.0: List the affected
sections in the ODF 1.0 specification together with a proposed
resolution that follows the clarifications made already for ODF 1.2.

Rob has added the item to the public comment
spreadsheet. The action item may get closed.

#0041: Report to TC on estimated date for an ODF 1.2 Committee Draft
vote. In particular, when would we have a draft worth public review?

It has been clarified that there may be a sequence of Committee Drafts,
and that a first Committee Draft may get approved even if some proposals
are still under discussion, as long as this does not require major
updates of the specification. The idea to supplement a Committee Draft
by a list of items that need to be addressed was discussed.

* Discussion of proposals

- "Grouping for radio elements"

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Grouping_for_Radio_Elements

It was mentioned that ODF already supports grouping of radio buttons by
name. Florian wants to update the proposal to consider this.

It was considered to be reasonable to get the opinion of the A11y SC
prior to a vote on the proposal.

- "xml:id"

http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/proposal%3Axml-id

Michael asked for feedback on the proposal. It was asked whether the
proposal changes the situation regarding validation withing jing without
using the "-i" switch for disabling RNG DTD Compatibility. Michael wants
to check this.


The meeting was adjourned at 5:10pm CET	

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  • 2.  Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 16:15 
    Are these minutes being archived anywhere to make it easy to access
them. Did anyone ever figure out how to post the minutes to the [1] or
to make an minutes mailing list so that one doesn't have to fish
through the office@ archives to find the minutes?

[1]http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/office/minutes.php

Thanks,
wt

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 -
Hamburg


  • 3.  Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 21:01 
    Hail, Webmaster!

I'm reading at the bottom of this page (
http://wiki.oasis-open.org/staff-stds-wiki/OrganizingAndConductingMeetings
) that we should send a note to you to get our TC minutes added to our TC 
Minute's Page:  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/office/minutes.php

If this is correct, we will start cc'ing you on our minutes when the 
become available each week.  The most recent minutes are from the 4 August 
2008 meeting, which are at this URL:  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/200808/msg00027.html

Thanks,

-Rob

> 
> Are these minutes being archived anywhere to make it easy to access
> them. Did anyone ever figure out how to post the minutes to the [1] or
> to make an minutes mailing list so that one doesn't have to fish
> through the office@ archives to find the minutes?
> 
> [1]http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/office/minutes.php
>


  • 4.  RE: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 23:12 
    Hi Rob,

  Actually, no. :-)

  Eons ago that's what used to happen. Minutes should be posted either to the
Kavi document repository or in the body of an email message. There should be
text on each Minutes page noting the preference of the TC - such as "the x tc
keeps their minutes in the email archives. All minutes are noted with the
subject line "x"" or "All minutes are stored in the document repository and
noted with the filename "x""

The last thing we want to do is burden our webmaster with
converting/managing/uploading minutes from 65+ TCs.

Thanks!

Mary

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  • 5.  Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 23:19 
    Could we create a mailing list that the minutes can be CCed to?

wt

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Mary McRae


  • 6.  RE: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 23:34 
    Sorry, no. There is something in the works that will offer a very easy search for meeting minutes within an email archive. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, from the TC Process Section 2.8 TC Visibility:
"The minutes of each TC meeting and a record of all decisions shall be published to that TC’s general email list. All official communications and discussions of the TC must take place on the email list. All TC email lists shall be archived for the duration of the corporation, and all TC email archives shall be publicly visible."

Mary


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  • 7.  Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 23:40 
    > 
> Could we create a mailing list that the minutes can be CCed to?
> 
> wt

What problem are we trying to solve?  Note that we're required by OASIS 
policy to post the minutes to the document library or the TC's mailing 
list.  Since all TC members subscribe to the TC mailing list all TC 
members already get all minutes.

So are we trying to make it easier for non-TC members to find the minutes? 
 Or make it easier for TC members to distinguish minutes from other list 
traffic?  If the goal is the later, an alternative solution would be to 
ensure that Michael and I consistently use the same subject lines when 
sending out minutes.  Then it would be easy for members to write inbox 
rules to highlight minutes or move them to a separate folder or whatever.

-Rob


  • 8.  Re: [office] OpenDocument TC coordination call draft minutes 2008-08-04 (revised)

    Posted 08-07-2008 23:48 
    On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM,


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