OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

  • 1.  Chat log for ODF conference call, 5 March 2018

    Posted 03-05-2018 19:15
    Greetings! Our chat log for 5 March 2018 follows. Hope everyone is at the start of a great week! Patrick *** ODF Teleconference chat log - 5 March 2018 *** anonymous morphed into Thorsten Please change your name from 'anonymous' using the Settings button anonymous morphed into Patrick Patrick: quorum! Patrick: 5. Issues for Mar. 5, 2018: a. Schedule for ODF 1.3 - Not a decision point but free discussion prior to making a decision. We have, if my selection is correct, 116 resolved issues that I have yet to apply to a draft. Tasks expand to fit the time alloted so setting goal dates and progress points are vital to the ODF project reaching 1.3. As I suggest, not a decision point but we should start putting stakes in the ground for target dates. b. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 [text] additional text-properties for extra border attributes c. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 The color mode Watermark makes images pale, not transparent d. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3845 Unclear if tabulator positions are being inherited among styles e. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3846 Use @text:relative-tab-stop-position as well for style:tabs-stops instead of using settings.xml flag f. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3946 https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3946 g. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3789 Proposal: special header/footer style on first page (at Thorsten's request) Patrick: Michael suggests priority on issues that have proposals, easiest to resolve for meeting discussion - Thorsten likes the proposal Patrick: Regina - make the cut with a date - on issues that can't be resolved. - Patrick: set April 2nd for deciding date on ODF 1.3 - also issue roll up version of all changes to date Patrick: Michael says April 2nd is Easter Monday, so no meeting that day. - No ODF meeting on April 2nd -holiday Patrick: Set April 9th for setting date for ODF 1.3 - also issue roll up version of all changes to date Patrick: Regina wants to get the important issues in but when she touches text she finds errors - Patrick: Regina - that's the experience of all editors! Patrick: Regina - perhaps early summer - if we get a new version every two years, not so much harm to wait for the next version Patrick: Andreas - can work with any date, need to have a deadline - no strong opinions. Patrick: For following meetings, prioritize issues with proposals for meeting discussion Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 Patrick: Regina commented rejecting the proposal - also impacts kerning Patrick: Regina - need to comment on kerning because the text becomes wider Patrick: Regina- proposal is OK, but problem with kerning Regina Henschel: Write VA and apply a border to V and a border to A and measure the width. Patrick: Kerning and description of the rendering, location of the borders -Thorsten will explore Patrick: Regina - have the same problem with background to a character Patrick: Andreas - can change the layout or not. Patrick: Thorsten takes an action item to update the proposals in light of these comments Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 Regina Henschel: Word uses washout as word. Patrick: Contact Jos about Caligra's position on this proposal Patrick: Regina - need to correct luminance language before we can give the algorithm here. Patrick: Next meeting, March 12th -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net Homepage: http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau Attachment: signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature


  • 2.  Re: [office] Chat log for ODF conference call, 5 March 2018

    Posted 03-05-2018 20:28
    HI, I just noticed that our north-american time change happens on March 11th, i.e. before our next meeting. SO at what time do we have the next meeting. I assume that in north-american areas without daylight savings time the local time of the meeting does not change (or does it?) Andreas On 18-03-05 12:14 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Greetings! Our chat log for 5 March 2018 follows. Hope everyone is at the start of a great week! Patrick *** ODF Teleconference chat log - 5 March 2018 *** anonymous morphed into Thorsten Please change your name from 'anonymous' using the Settings button anonymous morphed into Patrick Patrick: quorum! Patrick: 5. Issues for Mar. 5, 2018: a. Schedule for ODF 1.3 - Not a decision point but free discussion prior to making a decision. We have, if my selection is correct, 116 resolved issues that I have yet to apply to a draft. Tasks expand to fit the time alloted so setting goal dates and progress points are vital to the ODF project reaching 1.3. As I suggest, not a decision point but we should start putting stakes in the ground for target dates. b. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 [text] additional text-properties for extra border attributes c. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 The color mode Watermark makes images pale, not transparent d. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3845 Unclear if tabulator positions are being inherited among styles e. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3846 Use @text:relative-tab-stop-position as well for style:tabs-stops instead of using settings.xml flag f. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3946 https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3946 g. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3789 Proposal: special header/footer style on first page (at Thorsten's request) Patrick: Michael suggests priority on issues that have proposals, easiest to resolve for meeting discussion - Thorsten likes the proposal Patrick: Regina - make the cut with a date - on issues that can't be resolved. - Patrick: set April 2nd for deciding date on ODF 1.3 - also issue roll up version of all changes to date Patrick: Michael says April 2nd is Easter Monday, so no meeting that day. - No ODF meeting on April 2nd -holiday Patrick: Set April 9th for setting date for ODF 1.3 - also issue roll up version of all changes to date Patrick: Regina wants to get the important issues in but when she touches text she finds errors - Patrick: Regina - that's the experience of all editors! Patrick: Regina - perhaps early summer - if we get a new version every two years, not so much harm to wait for the next version Patrick: Andreas - can work with any date, need to have a deadline - no strong opinions. Patrick: For following meetings, prioritize issues with proposals for meeting discussion Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 Patrick: Regina commented rejecting the proposal - also impacts kerning Patrick: Regina - need to comment on kerning because the text becomes wider Patrick: Regina- proposal is OK, but problem with kerning Regina Henschel: Write VA and apply a border to V and a border to A and measure the width. Patrick: Kerning and description of the rendering, location of the borders -Thorsten will explore Patrick: Regina - have the same problem with background to a character Patrick: Andreas - can change the layout or not. Patrick: Thorsten takes an action item to update the proposals in light of these comments Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 Regina Henschel: Word uses washout as word. Patrick: Contact Jos about Caligra's position on this proposal Patrick: Regina - need to correct luminance language before we can give the algorithm here. Patrick: Next meeting, March 12th -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net Homepage: http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau -- Andreas J. Guelzow, PhD FTICA Registrar & Director of Enrolment Services Professor, Mathematical & Computing Sciences Direct: +1 780 479 9290 Toll-Free: +1 866 479 5200 concordia.ab.ca


  • 3.  Re: [office] Chat log for ODF conference call, 5 March 2018

    Posted 03-06-2018 03:12
    Andreas, Thanks for the reminder! In the past (not a requirement) we held the time of the meeting constant in North America and so it changed in Europe, but only for those two weeks. Pleasure of the TC? Hope everyone is having a great week! Patrick On 03/05/2018 03:29 PM, Andreas J Guelzow wrote: HI, I just noticed that our north-american time change happens on March 11th, i.e. before our next meeting. SO at what time do we have the next meeting. I assume that in north-american areas without daylight savings time the local time of the meeting does not change (or does it?) Andreas On 18-03-05 12:14 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Greetings! Our chat log for 5 March 2018 follows. Hope everyone is at the start of a great week! Patrick *** ODF Teleconference chat log - 5 March 2018 *** anonymous morphed into Thorsten Please change your name from 'anonymous' using the Settings button anonymous morphed into Patrick Patrick: quorum! Patrick: 5. Issues for Mar. 5, 2018: a. Schedule for ODF 1.3 - Not a decision point but free discussion prior to making a decision. We have, if my selection is correct, 116 resolved issues that I have yet to apply to a draft. Tasks expand to fit the time alloted so setting goal dates and progress points are vital to the ODF project reaching 1.3. As I suggest, not a decision point but we should start putting stakes in the ground for target dates. b. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 [text] additional text-properties for extra border attributes c. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 The color mode Watermark makes images pale, not transparent d. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3845 Unclear if tabulator positions are being inherited among styles e. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3846 Use @text:relative-tab-stop-position as well for style:tabs-stops instead of using settings.xml flag f. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3946 https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3946 g. https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3789 Proposal: special header/footer style on first page (at Thorsten's request) Patrick: Michael suggests priority on issues that have proposals, easiest to resolve for meeting discussion - Thorsten likes the proposal Patrick: Regina - make the cut with a date - on issues that can't be resolved. - Patrick: set April 2nd for deciding date on ODF 1.3 - also issue roll up version of all changes to date Patrick: Michael says April 2nd is Easter Monday, so no meeting that day. - No ODF meeting on April 2nd -holiday Patrick: Set April 9th for setting date for ODF 1.3 - also issue roll up version of all changes to date Patrick: Regina wants to get the important issues in but when she touches text she finds errors - Patrick: Regina - that's the experience of all editors! Patrick: Regina - perhaps early summer - if we get a new version every two years, not so much harm to wait for the next version Patrick: Andreas - can work with any date, need to have a deadline - no strong opinions. Patrick: For following meetings, prioritize issues with proposals for meeting discussion Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3843 Patrick: Regina commented rejecting the proposal - also impacts kerning Patrick: Regina - need to comment on kerning because the text becomes wider Patrick: Regina- proposal is OK, but problem with kerning Regina Henschel: Write VA and apply a border to V and a border to A and measure the width. Patrick: Kerning and description of the rendering, location of the borders -Thorsten will explore Patrick: Regina - have the same problem with background to a character Patrick: Andreas - can change the layout or not. Patrick: Thorsten takes an action item to update the proposals in light of these comments Patrick: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 Regina Henschel: Word uses washout as word. Patrick: Contact Jos about Caligra's position on this proposal Patrick: Regina - need to correct luminance language before we can give the algorithm here. Patrick: Next meeting, March 12th -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net Homepage: http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau -- Andreas J. Guelzow, PhD FTICA Registrar & Director of Enrolment Services Professor, Mathematical & Computing Sciences Direct: +1 780 479 9290 Toll-Free: +1 866 479 5200 concordia.ab.ca -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net Homepage: http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau Attachment: signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature