OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

  • 1.  ODF interoperability

    Posted 08-27-2016 12:32
    Hello all, The OASIS Open Document Format Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) TC [0] was active from September 2008 until October 2013. The OIC has stopped being active but the need to keep tabs on interoperablity persists. There are still interoperability events going on. For example, last year there was an ODF Plugfest that found a large set of interoperability issues and at the next LibreOffice meeting there is a special track on interoperability. The last report published by the OIC gives a good analysis of the different aspects of ODF interoperability and discusses a number of concrete issues, albeit without explicitly mentioning implementations [1]. The OIC has published generally worded advisories for improvements in implementations and in the specification. I think that what is needed for ODF is concrete assesments of the conformance of specific implementations. Such assesment would lead to advisories to the implementations and/or the ODF TC. The assements would be supported by automatic and manual testing that is stored such that up to date progress reports are always available. The last ODF Plugfest in The Hague resulted in a long report [2] with many defects in implementations. Such reports are helpful to implementations in becoming more compliant. It also helps potential users of implementations to choose between implementations. Getting good coverage of the specification is a lot of work. This is why at Logius we have started the development of an online tool in collaboration with OpenDoc Society that takes the plugfest workflow online. It already features some interesting new tooling, such as a browser based editor for test documents that validates against our RelaxNG schema's. I would very much like to see this approach being coopted by a revived OIC. We believe the tool can make a valuable contribution to the work of the ODF TC, and a revived OIC would be very useful to help steer the direction of its development. The OIC would work on bringing the aspects of interoperability found in [1] to the website. My personal expertise is in writing the software to support the process. The software for this website is available under a FOSS license [3]. We'd be happy to contribute the code to OASIS or host it for OASIS. Best regards, Jos van den Oever [0] https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/oic [1] http://docs.oasis-open.org/oic/StateOfInterop/v2.0/ [2] http://odfplugfest.org/2015-thehague/report.html [3] https://gitlab.com/odfplugfest/odfserver live development version: https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/ -- Jos van den Oever co-chair OpenDocument Format Technical Committee ..................................................................................... Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations Center for Standards Logius Wilhelmina van Pruisenweg 52 2595 AN Den Haag Postbus 96810 2509 JE Den Haag ..................................................................................... M +31(0)6-54715404 jos.vanden.oever@logius.nl www.logius.nl www.oasis-open.org/committees/office/ .....................................................................................


  • 2.  Re: [office] ODF interoperability

    Posted 08-29-2016 13:36
    I've put together of a list of some example pages on the server in development. Comparing rendering of a document: https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/rendercompare/upload/47/86/75/1 (more via https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/upload ) https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/test/7 The site includes a multilingual wiki. I hope this will make it possible to scale across language boundaries. The source code is here: https://gitlab.com/odfplugfest/odfserver The site include document validation and allows easy views inside the documents. https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/upload/10 Future plans are to have office-suite specific content, e.g. at https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/software/family/17 https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/software/29 Cheers, Jos On 27-08-16 14:31, Jos van den Oever wrote: Hello all, The OASIS Open Document Format Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) TC [0] was active from September 2008 until October 2013. The OIC has stopped being active but the need to keep tabs on interoperablity persists. There are still interoperability events going on. For example, last year there was an ODF Plugfest that found a large set of interoperability issues and at the next LibreOffice meeting there is a special track on interoperability. The last report published by the OIC gives a good analysis of the different aspects of ODF interoperability and discusses a number of concrete issues, albeit without explicitly mentioning implementations [1]. The OIC has published generally worded advisories for improvements in implementations and in the specification. I think that what is needed for ODF is concrete assesments of the conformance of specific implementations. Such assesment would lead to advisories to the implementations and/or the ODF TC. The assements would be supported by automatic and manual testing that is stored such that up to date progress reports are always available. The last ODF Plugfest in The Hague resulted in a long report [2] with many defects in implementations. Such reports are helpful to implementations in becoming more compliant. It also helps potential users of implementations to choose between implementations. Getting good coverage of the specification is a lot of work. This is why at Logius we have started the development of an online tool in collaboration with OpenDoc Society that takes the plugfest workflow online. It already features some interesting new tooling, such as a browser based editor for test documents that validates against our RelaxNG schema's. I would very much like to see this approach being coopted by a revived OIC. We believe the tool can make a valuable contribution to the work of the ODF TC, and a revived OIC would be very useful to help steer the direction of its development. The OIC would work on bringing the aspects of interoperability found in [1] to the website. My personal expertise is in writing the software to support the process. The software for this website is available under a FOSS license [3]. We'd be happy to contribute the code to OASIS or host it for OASIS. Best regards, Jos van den Oever [0] https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/oic [1] http://docs.oasis-open.org/oic/StateOfInterop/v2.0/ [2] http://odfplugfest.org/2015-thehague/report.html [3] https://gitlab.com/odfplugfest/odfserver live development version: https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/ -- Jos van den Oever co-chair OpenDocument Format Technical Committee ..................................................................................... Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations Center for Standards Logius Wilhelmina van Pruisenweg 52 2595 AN Den Haag Postbus 96810 2509 JE Den Haag ..................................................................................... M +31(0)6-54715404 jos.vanden.oever@logius.nl www.logius.nl www.oasis-open.org/committees/office/ .....................................................................................