UBL Transportation SC

  • 1.  TSC Action Item followup from TC

    Posted 01-11-2012 19:59
    Peter,   At the last TC call I got the action to provide TSC requirements for cancellation.   Within the UBL Transport domain there are two primary processes each having a subset of Transport documents/messages. 1.        Intermodal Freight Management 2.        International Freight Management.   Within the community employing Intermodal Freight Management messages, the opinion is that message content drives the processes, not the message as an entity.  While most of the message types in this domain are queries regarding status (which would not really require cancellation) the primary message is the Transport Execution Plan (TEP). As a collaborative document, the TEP would cycle among appropriate parties to finalize freight movement requirements.  If cancellation were required it would most likely be enabled within a cycle of the TEP and with a transport specific code type BBIE containing a “cancelled” value embedded in the TEP.   Within the community employing International Freight Management documents/messages, the opinion is not as clear. There may well be a requirement for cancellation, but only for specific message types.  Since there is a serial nature to the process and the documents/messages employed, the first document in the series, the Forwarding Instructions document/message, may well have to be cancelled in particular circumstances. A question I might ask, “Does EDIFACT have cancellation messages?”   I suggest that you explore with the PSC a possible  editorial note to be included in the PRD03 text that addresses the subject of cancellation and its implementation in a way the permits use if the implementation of their processes see a need. I welcome the opportunity to participate.   I also encourage others reading this to offer an opinion.     Regards, Andy Schoka      


  • 2.  Re: [ubl-tsc] TSC Action Item followup from TC

    Posted 01-11-2012 23:04
    The invoicing process has the credit note for full/partial cancellation. Let's say that a simple cancellation message is not sufficient for legal documents if they have been already processed by the receiver. The cancellation is quite common for: - Bookings (not just in the shipping industry) - Bill of Ladings - Orders In sectors like shipping/transport the "override" concept is often adopted because the partial modification of a previous instruction/document is not always a simple thing from the implementation point of view (so here I am not talking about the message itself but how to process it once received). The override is pratically used to cancel and substitute a previous message. Maybe we could provide any UBL message with the possibility to "cancel" or "override" the whole document or just a set of line items. The Purchase Order can be used as a sample by inspecting the cac:LineItem which offers a cbc:LineStatusCode. Using its default UBL code list we can assert that the line status is: "Line has been cancelled". See UBL 2.0 code list under cl/gc/default/LineStatusCode-2.0.gc All UBL documents using the LineItem ABIE are ready for cancelling a set of line items or even all of them. Probably we could add a similar BIE on the document root named "StatusCode" and pointing to a similar code list but for the whole document. For instance: DocumentStatusCode-2.1.gc Hope this helps, Roberto > Peter, > > > > At the last TC call I got the action to provide TSC requirements for > cancellation. > > > > Within the UBL Transport domain there are two primary processes each > having > a subset of Transport documents/messages. > > 1. Intermodal Freight Management > > 2. International Freight Management. > > > > Within the community employing Intermodal Freight Management messages, the > opinion is that message content drives the processes, not the message as > an > entity. While most of the message types in this domain are queries > regarding status (which would not really require cancellation) the primary > message is the Transport Execution Plan (TEP). As a collaborative > document, > the TEP would cycle among appropriate parties to finalize freight movement > requirements. If cancellation were required it would most likely be > enabled > within a cycle of the TEP and with a transport specific code type BBIE > containing a "cancelled" value embedded in the TEP. > > > > Within the community employing International Freight Management > documents/messages, the opinion is not as clear. There may well be a > requirement for cancellation, but only for specific message types. Since > there is a serial nature to the process and the documents/messages > employed, > the first document in the series, the Forwarding Instructions > document/message, may well have to be cancelled in particular > circumstances. > A question I might ask, "Does EDIFACT have cancellation messages?" > > > > I suggest that you explore with the PSC a possible editorial note to be > included in the PRD03 text that addresses the subject of cancellation and > its implementation in a way the permits use if the implementation of their > processes see a need. I welcome the opportunity to participate. > > > > I also encourage others reading this to offer an opinion. > > > > > > Regards, > > Andy Schoka > > > > > > > > -- * JAVEST by Roberto Cisternino * * Document Engineering Services Ltd. - Alliance Member * UBL Italian Localization SubCommittee (ITLSC), co-Chair * UBL Online Community editorial board member (ubl.xml.org) * Italian UBL Advisor Roberto Cisternino mobile: +39 328 2148123 skype: roberto.cisternino.ubl-itlsc [UBL Technical Committee] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl [UBL Online Community] http://ubl.xml.org [UBL International Conferences] http://www.ublconference.org [UBL Italian Localization Subcommittee] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl-itlsc [Iniziativa divulgativa UBL Italia] http://www.ubl-italia.org


  • 3.  RE: [ubl-tsc] TSC Action Item followup from TC

    Posted 01-12-2012 04:30
    Thank you Roberto for your comments. I like the idea of adding a BBIE in the Status ABIE that allows a code with an entry of something like "This is a cancellation of this containing document." And do you know if EDIFACT has a cancellation message? Andy