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STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

  • 1.  STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-12-2018 23:16




    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :  STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft





    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft 
    Download Latest Revision
    Public Download Link
     




    Document Name :
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use
    Draft



    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public Download Link








     






  • 2.  Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 03:16
    Isn't the personas being tested missing? Sent from IBM Verse Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments --- From: "Allan Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org, cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: "Interoperability Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program   Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name :  STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft  Download Latest Revision Public Download Link   Document Name : STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download Latest Revision Public Download Link  


  • 3.  Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 03:16
    Isn't the personas being tested missing? Sent from IBM Verse Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments --- From: "Allan Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org, cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: "Interoperability Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program   Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name :  STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft  Download Latest Revision Public Download Link   Document Name : STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download Latest Revision Public Download Link  


  • 4.  Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 03:16
    Isn't the personas being tested missing? Sent from IBM Verse Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments --- From: "Allan Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org, cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: "Interoperability Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program   Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name :  STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft  Download Latest Revision Public Download Link   Document Name : STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download Latest Revision Public Download Link  


  • 5.  Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:58




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     

    From: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com>
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>
    Cc: "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse


    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---



     




    From:


    "Allan Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>




    To:


    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org, cti@lists.oasis-open.org




    Cc:


    "Interoperability Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>




    Date:


    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM




    Subject:


    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments





     

    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :  STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft





    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft 
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     




    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft



    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link







     

     







  • 6.  Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:58




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     

    From: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com>
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>
    Cc: "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse


    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---



     




    From:


    "Allan Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>




    To:


    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org, cti@lists.oasis-open.org




    Cc:


    "Interoperability Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>




    Date:


    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM




    Subject:


    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments





     

    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :  STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft





    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft 
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     




    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft



    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link







     

     







  • 7.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 14:20
    I am trying to align this document with
    what is going to be listed on the OASIS website. I presumed that what is going to be
    listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.
    It seems strange to allow an Attestation
    so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to... Below is the only thing you actually
    say in the attestation.. -- Which of the CTI Interop Tests was
    applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation? ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability
    Test Document - Part 1 ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability
    Test Document - Part 2 - Jason Keirstead STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems www.ibm.com/security "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those
    who hustle." - Unknown From:      
      Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To:      
      Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com> Cc:      
      "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"
    <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org"
    <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, "Interoperability Subcommittee"
    <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date:      
      03/13/2018 09:58 AM Subject:    
        [cti-interoperability]
    Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments Sent by:    
        <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> The instructions/terms of use documents
    refer to the test plan documents.   However, the intention is that these documents
    do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act
    more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.   Please consider that these are not replacements
    for our test documents but rather a framework around them.   Allan   From: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> Cc: "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   Isn't the personas being tested
    missing? Sent from IBM Verse Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix]
    STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---   From: "Allan
    Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: "Interoperability
    Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: Mon,
    Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: [cti-stix]
    STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   All – I have posted 2 documents that have
    been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred
    program Terms of use on STIX Preferred
    program   Please review these documents and if you
    have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee
    by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams
    also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate
    in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns
    in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds
    9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval
    of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we
    do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime
    after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Download
    Latest Revision Public
    Download Link   Document
    Name : STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download
    Latest Revision Public
    Download Link    



  • 8.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 14:20
    I am trying to align this document with
    what is going to be listed on the OASIS website. I presumed that what is going to be
    listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.
    It seems strange to allow an Attestation
    so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to... Below is the only thing you actually
    say in the attestation.. -- Which of the CTI Interop Tests was
    applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation? ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability
    Test Document - Part 1 ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability
    Test Document - Part 2 - Jason Keirstead STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems www.ibm.com/security "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those
    who hustle." - Unknown From:      
      Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To:      
      Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com> Cc:      
      "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"
    <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org"
    <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, "Interoperability Subcommittee"
    <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date:      
      03/13/2018 09:58 AM Subject:    
        [cti-interoperability]
    Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments Sent by:    
        <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> The instructions/terms of use documents
    refer to the test plan documents.   However, the intention is that these documents
    do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act
    more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.   Please consider that these are not replacements
    for our test documents but rather a framework around them.   Allan   From: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> Cc: "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   Isn't the personas being tested
    missing? Sent from IBM Verse Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix]
    STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---   From: "Allan
    Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: "Interoperability
    Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: Mon,
    Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: [cti-stix]
    STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   All – I have posted 2 documents that have
    been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred
    program Terms of use on STIX Preferred
    program   Please review these documents and if you
    have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee
    by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams
    also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate
    in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns
    in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds
    9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval
    of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we
    do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime
    after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Download
    Latest Revision Public
    Download Link   Document
    Name : STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download
    Latest Revision Public
    Download Link    



  • 9.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 14:20
    I am trying to align this document with
    what is going to be listed on the OASIS website. I presumed that what is going to be
    listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.
    It seems strange to allow an Attestation
    so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to... Below is the only thing you actually
    say in the attestation.. -- Which of the CTI Interop Tests was
    applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation? ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability
    Test Document - Part 1 ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability
    Test Document - Part 2 - Jason Keirstead STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems www.ibm.com/security "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those
    who hustle." - Unknown From:      
      Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To:      
      Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com> Cc:      
      "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org"
    <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org"
    <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, "Interoperability Subcommittee"
    <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date:      
      03/13/2018 09:58 AM Subject:    
        [cti-interoperability]
    Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments Sent by:    
        <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> The instructions/terms of use documents
    refer to the test plan documents.   However, the intention is that these documents
    do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act
    more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.   Please consider that these are not replacements
    for our test documents but rather a framework around them.   Allan   From: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> Cc: "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   Isn't the personas being tested
    missing? Sent from IBM Verse Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix]
    STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---   From: "Allan
    Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: "Interoperability
    Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: Mon,
    Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: [cti-stix]
    STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   All – I have posted 2 documents that have
    been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred
    program Terms of use on STIX Preferred
    program   Please review these documents and if you
    have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee
    by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams
    also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate
    in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns
    in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds
    9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval
    of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we
    do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime
    after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Download
    Latest Revision Public
    Download Link   Document
    Name : STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download
    Latest Revision Public
    Download Link    



  • 10.  Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:35



    I could not find text that talks about which versions of the specification you are claiming conformance to and which product version that maps to.  So if a product does this for STIX 2.0 does that mean they get to keep using this mark even with 2.5 is out?


    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 


    PGP
    Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050


    On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com > wrote:



    I am trying to align this document with what is going to be listed on the OASIS website.

    I presumed that what is going to be listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.


    It seems strange to allow an Attestation so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to...

    Below is the only thing you actually say in the attestation..
    --

    Which of the CTI Interop Tests was applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation?

    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 1
    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 2


    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle." - Unknown





    From:         Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    To:         Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Cc:         " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         03/13/2018 09:58 AM
    Subject:         [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
    Sent by:         < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     
    From: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    Cc: " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
     
    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse
    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---

     





    From:

    "Allan Thomson" < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >



    To:

    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org



    Cc:

    "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >



    Date:

    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM



    Subject:

    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments




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    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft
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    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     





    Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft

    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link







     
     










  • 11.  Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:35



    I could not find text that talks about which versions of the specification you are claiming conformance to and which product version that maps to.  So if a product does this for STIX 2.0 does that mean they get to keep using this mark even with 2.5 is out?


    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 


    PGP
    Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050


    On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com > wrote:



    I am trying to align this document with what is going to be listed on the OASIS website.

    I presumed that what is going to be listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.


    It seems strange to allow an Attestation so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to...

    Below is the only thing you actually say in the attestation..
    --

    Which of the CTI Interop Tests was applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation?

    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 1
    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 2


    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle." - Unknown





    From:         Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    To:         Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Cc:         " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         03/13/2018 09:58 AM
    Subject:         [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
    Sent by:         < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     
    From: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    Cc: " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
     
    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse
    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---

     





    From:

    "Allan Thomson" < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >



    To:

    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org



    Cc:

    "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >



    Date:

    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM



    Subject:

    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments




    <mime-attachment.png>
     
    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft
    <mime-attachment.png>

    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     





    Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft

    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link







     
     










  • 12.  Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:35



    I could not find text that talks about which versions of the specification you are claiming conformance to and which product version that maps to.  So if a product does this for STIX 2.0 does that mean they get to keep using this mark even with 2.5 is out?


    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 


    PGP
    Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050


    On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com > wrote:



    I am trying to align this document with what is going to be listed on the OASIS website.

    I presumed that what is going to be listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.


    It seems strange to allow an Attestation so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to...

    Below is the only thing you actually say in the attestation..
    --

    Which of the CTI Interop Tests was applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation?

    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 1
    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 2


    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle." - Unknown





    From:         Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    To:         Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Cc:         " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         03/13/2018 09:58 AM
    Subject:         [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
    Sent by:         < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     
    From: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    Cc: " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
     
    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse
    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---

     





    From:

    "Allan Thomson" < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >



    To:

    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org



    Cc:

    "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >



    Date:

    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM



    Subject:

    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments




    <mime-attachment.png>
     
    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft
    <mime-attachment.png>

    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     





    Document Name : STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft

    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link







     
     










  • 13.  Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:51




    Bret – the intention is ‘no’. Certification only applies to specific persona/version and therefore if you certify 2.0 based product then it does not then include all future versions of your product.
     
    If we need to clarify that in the text then please suggest changes. I did review this text with respect to this and we can pick up more in the Interop calls.
     
    regards
     
    Allan
     

    From: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM
    To: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com>
    Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    I could not find text that talks about which versions of the specification you are claiming conformance to and which product version that maps to.  So if a product does this for STIX 2.0 does that mean they get to keep using this mark even
    with 2.5 is out?

     


    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 

     


    PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050




    On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com > wrote:



    I am trying to align this document with what is going to be listed on the OASIS website.

    I presumed that what is going to be listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.


    It seems strange to allow an Attestation so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to...

    Below is the only thing you actually say in the attestation..
    --

    Which of the CTI Interop Tests was applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation?

    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 1
    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 2


    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle." - Unknown





    From:         Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    To:         Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Cc:         " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         03/13/2018 09:58 AM
    Subject:         [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
    Sent by:         < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     
    From: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    Cc: " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
     
    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse
    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---

     




    From:


    "Allan Thomson" < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >




    To:


    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org




    Cc:


    "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    Date:


    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM




    Subject:


    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments





    <mime-attachment.png>
     
    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     


    Instructions on STIX Preferred program


    Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft
    <mime-attachment.png>

    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     





    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft

    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link









     
     











  • 14.  Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:51




    Bret – the intention is ‘no’. Certification only applies to specific persona/version and therefore if you certify 2.0 based product then it does not then include all future versions of your product.
     
    If we need to clarify that in the text then please suggest changes. I did review this text with respect to this and we can pick up more in the Interop calls.
     
    regards
     
    Allan
     

    From: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM
    To: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com>
    Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    I could not find text that talks about which versions of the specification you are claiming conformance to and which product version that maps to.  So if a product does this for STIX 2.0 does that mean they get to keep using this mark even
    with 2.5 is out?

     


    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 

     


    PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050




    On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com > wrote:



    I am trying to align this document with what is going to be listed on the OASIS website.

    I presumed that what is going to be listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.


    It seems strange to allow an Attestation so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to...

    Below is the only thing you actually say in the attestation..
    --

    Which of the CTI Interop Tests was applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation?

    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 1
    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 2


    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle." - Unknown





    From:         Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    To:         Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Cc:         " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         03/13/2018 09:58 AM
    Subject:         [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
    Sent by:         < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     
    From: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    Cc: " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
     
    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse
    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---

     




    From:


    "Allan Thomson" < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >




    To:


    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org




    Cc:


    "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    Date:


    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM




    Subject:


    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments





    <mime-attachment.png>
     
    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     


    Instructions on STIX Preferred program


    Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft
    <mime-attachment.png>

    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     





    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft

    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link









     
     











  • 15.  Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:51




    Bret – the intention is ‘no’. Certification only applies to specific persona/version and therefore if you certify 2.0 based product then it does not then include all future versions of your product.
     
    If we need to clarify that in the text then please suggest changes. I did review this text with respect to this and we can pick up more in the Interop calls.
     
    regards
     
    Allan
     

    From: Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 8:34 AM
    To: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com>
    Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [EXT] [cti-stix] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    I could not find text that talks about which versions of the specification you are claiming conformance to and which product version that maps to.  So if a product does this for STIX 2.0 does that mean they get to keep using this mark even
    with 2.5 is out?

     


    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 

     


    PGP Fingerprint: 63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050




    On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com > wrote:



    I am trying to align this document with what is going to be listed on the OASIS website.

    I presumed that what is going to be listed on the OASIS website would outline the personas tested against.


    It seems strange to allow an Attestation so vague that it doesn't outline the personas you're attesting to...

    Below is the only thing you actually say in the attestation..
    --

    Which of the CTI Interop Tests was applied to the product or service listed in this Attestation?

    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 1
    ______ STIX/TAXIITM 2.0 Interoperability Test Document - Part 2


    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle." - Unknown





    From:         Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    To:         Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Cc:         " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         03/13/2018 09:58 AM
    Subject:         [cti-interoperability] Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
    Sent by:         < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     
    From: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >
    Cc: " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments
     
    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse
    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---

     




    From:


    "Allan Thomson" < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >




    To:


    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org




    Cc:


    "Interoperability Subcommittee" < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >




    Date:


    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM




    Subject:


    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments





    <mime-attachment.png>
     
    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     


    Instructions on STIX Preferred program


    Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft
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    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     





    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft

    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link









     
     











  • 16.  Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:58




    The instructions/terms of use documents refer to the test plan documents.

     
    However, the intention is that these documents do not have to be revised for every change to the test documents and act more as a general framework for the overall program going forward.
     
    Please consider that these are not replacements for our test documents but rather a framework around them.
     
    Allan
     

    From: Jason Keirstead <Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com>
    Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 8:16 PM
    To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>
    Cc: "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Isn't the personas being tested missing?

    Sent from IBM Verse


    Allan Thomson --- [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments ---



     




    From:


    "Allan Thomson" <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>




    To:


    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org, cti@lists.oasis-open.org




    Cc:


    "Interoperability Subcommittee" <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>




    Date:


    Mon, Mar 12, 2018 8:16 PM




    Subject:


    [cti-stix] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments





     

    All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for

     

    Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program
     
    Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).
     
    SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.
     
    If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.
     
    We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.
     
    We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.
     
    Allan
     
    Document Name :  STIX
    Preferred Instructions Draft





    Description
    STIX Preferred Instructions Draft 
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link
     




    Document Name :
    STIX
    Preferred Terms of Use Draft



    Description
    STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft
    Download
    Latest Revision
    Public
    Download Link







     

     







  • 17.  Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 06:49
    One week is not a sufficient amount of time. Bret   From: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:15 PM To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee Subject: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program   Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name :  STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft  Download Latest Revision Public Download Link   Document Name : STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download Latest Revision Public Download Link  


  • 18.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:34
    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.   Cheers!   ~r   ron.williams@us.ibm.com stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711] May you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live - Robert Heinlein http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com preferred contact: on Slack @ronwilliams    


  • 19.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:56
      |   view attached




    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 20.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-14-2018 01:46




    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed…).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 21.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-14-2018 13:13




    Ryu – Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority
    of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From: "masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>, "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed…).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 22.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-15-2018 01:31




    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ ??
    ?? <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu – Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable
    to the majority of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From:
    " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed … ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 23.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-15-2018 01:31




    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ ??
    ?? <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu – Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable
    to the majority of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From:
    " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed … ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 24.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 01:54




    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable
    to the majority of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From:
    " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 25.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 01:54




    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable
    to the majority of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From:
    " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 26.  Re: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 02:38



    Koji:
    Please extend our thanks to your legal team for taking a close
    look at these documents.
    Jane Ginn


    On 8/29/2018 6:53 PM, Yamada, Koji
    wrote:







    Hi Allan,

    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents
    and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as
    [admin-email-address]).

    Thank you.

    Regards,

    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada



    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson'
    <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> ; Ron Williams
    <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com> ;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Hi, Allan,

    Thank you. Got the idea
    and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on
    immediately.

    Regards,

    Ryu



    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >;
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Ryu Our goal is to
    ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the
    documents. It does no one any good if we have
    documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not
    reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority of
    the TC.

    My goal of setting up
    milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting
    legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long
    some legal departments take to review documents.

    So thank you to everyone
    that has initiated that review quickly.

    For the ballot the
    tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over
    the next couple of weeks.



    Allan
    Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass
    Cyber Solutions

    From:
    masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com
    < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >,
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT]
    [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For
    Review/Comments




    Hi, Alan,

    When do you estimate
    the end of the ballot period?


    We will try our best to
    get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a
    month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).

    Regards,

    Ryu



    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Hi Ron The intent is
    that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow
    overall sufficient time for review/comments.

    regards

    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT]
    [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For
    Review/Comments






    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage
    our legal dept.





    Cheers!











    ~r





    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect
    x-force exchange master inventor ibm
    mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    May you live as long as you
    want, and love as long as you live - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams



















  • 27.  Re: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 02:38



    Koji:
    Please extend our thanks to your legal team for taking a close
    look at these documents.
    Jane Ginn


    On 8/29/2018 6:53 PM, Yamada, Koji
    wrote:







    Hi Allan,

    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents
    and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as
    [admin-email-address]).

    Thank you.

    Regards,

    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada



    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson'
    <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> ; Ron Williams
    <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com> ;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Hi, Allan,

    Thank you. Got the idea
    and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on
    immediately.

    Regards,

    Ryu



    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >;
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Ryu Our goal is to
    ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the
    documents. It does no one any good if we have
    documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not
    reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority of
    the TC.

    My goal of setting up
    milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting
    legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long
    some legal departments take to review documents.

    So thank you to everyone
    that has initiated that review quickly.

    For the ballot the
    tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over
    the next couple of weeks.



    Allan
    Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass
    Cyber Solutions

    From:
    masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com
    < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >,
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT]
    [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For
    Review/Comments




    Hi, Alan,

    When do you estimate
    the end of the ballot period?


    We will try our best to
    get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a
    month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).

    Regards,

    Ryu



    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Hi Ron The intent is
    that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow
    overall sufficient time for review/comments.

    regards

    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT]
    [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For
    Review/Comments






    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage
    our legal dept.





    Cheers!











    ~r





    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect
    x-force exchange master inventor ibm
    mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    May you live as long as you
    want, and love as long as you live - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams



















  • 28.  Re: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 02:38



    Koji:
    Please extend our thanks to your legal team for taking a close
    look at these documents.
    Jane Ginn


    On 8/29/2018 6:53 PM, Yamada, Koji
    wrote:







    Hi Allan,

    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents
    and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as
    [admin-email-address]).

    Thank you.

    Regards,

    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada



    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson'
    <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> ; Ron Williams
    <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com> ;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Hi, Allan,

    Thank you. Got the idea
    and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on
    immediately.

    Regards,

    Ryu



    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >;
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Ryu Our goal is to
    ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the
    documents. It does no one any good if we have
    documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not
    reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority of
    the TC.

    My goal of setting up
    milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting
    legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long
    some legal departments take to review documents.

    So thank you to everyone
    that has initiated that review quickly.

    For the ballot the
    tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over
    the next couple of weeks.



    Allan
    Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass
    Cyber Solutions

    From:
    masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com
    < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >,
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT]
    [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For
    Review/Comments




    Hi, Alan,

    When do you estimate
    the end of the ballot period?


    We will try our best to
    get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a
    month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).

    Regards,

    Ryu



    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re:
    [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents
    For Review/Comments



    Hi Ron The intent is
    that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow
    overall sufficient time for review/comments.

    regards

    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT]
    [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For
    Review/Comments






    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage
    our legal dept.





    Cheers!











    ~r





    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect
    x-force exchange master inventor ibm
    mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    May you live as long as you
    want, and love as long as you live - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams



















  • 29.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 14:33




    Koji thanks for the confirmation.
     
    Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ? Please clarify.
     
    For other organizations awareness. These documents have yet to be formally approved by the TC and STIXPreferred program requires that they are approved.
     
    After the next TC monthly meeting there will be a ballot for TC-approval of the documents.

     
    If you need more time for your organization (and particularly your legal counsel) to review the documents please consider doing that now rather than waiting until the ballot comes out.
     
    regards
     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO ( +1-408-331-6646)

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions
     

    From: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of "Yamada, Koji" <yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com>
    Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:53 PM
    To: "masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>, Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>, "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority
    of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From: " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want, and love as long as you
    live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 30.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-31-2018 01:29




    Hi Allan,

     
    >Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ?

    No, you do not need to change.
     
    Regards,
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: Allan Thomson [mailto:athomson@lookingglasscyber.com]

    Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:33 PM
    To: Yamada, Koji/ åç
    åæ <yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com>; Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Koji thanks for the confirmation.
     
    Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ? Please clarify.
     
    For other organizations awareness. These documents have yet to be formally approved by the TC and STIXPreferred program requires that they are approved.
     
    After the next TC monthly meeting there will be a ballot for TC-approval of the documents.

     
    If you need more time for your organization (and particularly your legal counsel) to review the documents please consider doing that now rather than waiting until the ballot comes out.
     
    regards
     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO ( +1-408-331-6646)

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions
     

    From:
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org > on behalf of "Yamada, Koji" < yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:53 PM
    To: " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >, Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable
    to the majority of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From:
    " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 31.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-31-2018 01:29




    Hi Allan,

     
    >Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ?

    No, you do not need to change.
     
    Regards,
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: Allan Thomson [mailto:athomson@lookingglasscyber.com]

    Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:33 PM
    To: Yamada, Koji/ åç
    åæ <yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com>; Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Koji thanks for the confirmation.
     
    Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ? Please clarify.
     
    For other organizations awareness. These documents have yet to be formally approved by the TC and STIXPreferred program requires that they are approved.
     
    After the next TC monthly meeting there will be a ballot for TC-approval of the documents.

     
    If you need more time for your organization (and particularly your legal counsel) to review the documents please consider doing that now rather than waiting until the ballot comes out.
     
    regards
     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO ( +1-408-331-6646)

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions
     

    From:
    Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org > on behalf of "Yamada, Koji" < yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:53 PM
    To: " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >, Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >,
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable
    to the majority of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From:
    " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 32.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 14:33




    Koji thanks for the confirmation.
     
    Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ? Please clarify.
     
    For other organizations awareness. These documents have yet to be formally approved by the TC and STIXPreferred program requires that they are approved.
     
    After the next TC monthly meeting there will be a ballot for TC-approval of the documents.

     
    If you need more time for your organization (and particularly your legal counsel) to review the documents please consider doing that now rather than waiting until the ballot comes out.
     
    regards
     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO ( +1-408-331-6646)

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions
     

    From: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of "Yamada, Koji" <yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com>
    Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:53 PM
    To: "masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>, Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>, "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority
    of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From: " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want, and love as long as you
    live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 33.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 08-30-2018 14:33




    Koji thanks for the confirmation.
     
    Regarding the intentional blank. Are you suggesting we need to make a change to the template document ? Please clarify.
     
    For other organizations awareness. These documents have yet to be formally approved by the TC and STIXPreferred program requires that they are approved.
     
    After the next TC monthly meeting there will be a ballot for TC-approval of the documents.

     
    If you need more time for your organization (and particularly your legal counsel) to review the documents please consider doing that now rather than waiting until the ballot comes out.
     
    regards
     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO ( +1-408-331-6646)

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions
     

    From: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of "Yamada, Koji" <yamada.koji@jp.fujitsu.com>
    Date: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 6:53 PM
    To: "masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>, Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>, "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi Allan,
     
    It took a lot of time,

    our legal team (Fujitsu) reviewed the documents and it is OK

    except intentional blank (such as [admin-email-address]).
     
    Thank you.
     
    Regards,
     
    --------------------------------------------------
    Fujitsu System Integration Laboratories
    Koji Yamada
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Masuoka, Ryusuke
    Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:31 AM
    To: 'Allan Thomson' <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>; Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi, Allan,
     
    Thank you. Got the idea and the sense of urgency.
    Will start working on immediately.
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:13 PM
    To: Masuoka, Ryusuke/ çå
    çä < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >; Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Ryu Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority
    of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From: " masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com " < masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >, " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com "
    < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >,
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed ).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >;
    Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ;
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want, and love as long as you
    live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 34.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-14-2018 13:13




    Ryu – Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority
    of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From: "masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>, "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed…).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 35.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-14-2018 13:13




    Ryu – Our goal is to ensure the TC has time to review and provide feedback on the documents. It does no one any good if we have documents/framework for STIX Preferred that are either not reviewed at all or worse not acceptable to the majority
    of the TC.
     
    My goal of setting up milestones for review was to initiate an urgency to getting legal teams involved as I know * exactly * how long some legal departments take to review documents.
     
    So thank you to everyone that has initiated that review quickly.
     
    For the ballot the tentative plan was to initiate the start of the ballot over the next couple of weeks.

     

    Allan Thomson
    CTO
    +1-408-331-6646

    LookingGlass Cyber Solutions

    From: "masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com" <masuoka.ryusuke@jp.fujitsu.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 6:46 PM
    To: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>, "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     

    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed…).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 36.  RE: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-14-2018 01:46




    Hi, Alan,
     
    When do you estimate the end of the ballot period?

     
    We will try our best to get it through our legal by then,
    but it usually takes a month (and already a day or two have
    already passed…).
     
    Regards,
     
    Ryu
     


    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Allan Thomson
    Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:56 PM
    To: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>; Bret_Jordan@symantec.com
    Cc: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     
    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From:
    Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: " Bret_Jordan@symantec.com " < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Cc: Allan Thomson < athomson@lookingglasscyber.com >, Interoperability Subcommittee < cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org "
    < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org >, " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May you live as long as you want,
    and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 37.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:56




    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 38.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 12:56




    Hi Ron – The intent is that this 1 week period + the ballot period will allow overall sufficient time for review/comments.
     
    regards
     
    Allan

    From: Ron Williams <Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 5:34 AM
    To: "Bret_Jordan@symantec.com" <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com>
    Cc: Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com>, Interoperability Subcommittee <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org>, "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments


     



    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.


     


    Cheers!








     


    ~r


     


    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]


    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein


    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com



    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams










     


     





  • 39.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:38



    I agree Ron.  If our legal dept has not yet had a chance to read and comment on this legal document that governs how we might use this tech, then our only option is to vote against it. 



    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 


    PGP
    Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050


    On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com > wrote:





    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.
     
    Cheers!






     

    ~r

     

    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]
    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein

    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com

    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams








     
     




  • 40.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:38



    I agree Ron.  If our legal dept has not yet had a chance to read and comment on this legal document that governs how we might use this tech, then our only option is to vote against it. 



    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 


    PGP
    Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050


    On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com > wrote:





    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.
     
    Cheers!






     

    ~r

     

    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]
    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein

    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com

    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams








     
     




  • 41.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 17:08
    Agree. I have yet to meet a legal dept. that can move faster than a week on anything (other than maybe where to order snacks for their next mtg).... --Chris Chris Larsen Architect, WebPulse Threat Research Lab Symantec From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org <cti@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Bret Jordan <Bret_Jordan@symantec.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:37:28 AM To: Ron Williams Cc: athomson@lookingglasscyber.com; cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [cti] Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   I agree Ron.  If our legal dept has not yet had a chance to read and comment on this legal document that governs how we might use this tech, then our only option is to vote against it.  Bret  Sent from my Commodore 64  PGP Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050 On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com > wrote: Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.   Cheers!   ~r   ron.williams@us.ibm.com stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711] " May you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com preferred contact: on Slack @ronwilliams    


  • 42.  Re: [cti-interoperability] Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 15:38



    I agree Ron.  If our legal dept has not yet had a chance to read and comment on this legal document that governs how we might use this tech, then our only option is to vote against it. 



    Bret 

    Sent from my Commodore 64 


    PGP
    Fingerprint:  63B4 FC53 680A 6B7D 1447  F2C0 74F8 ACAE 7415 0050


    On Mar 13, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Ron Williams < Ron.Williams@us.ibm.com > wrote:





    Agree with Bret - especially if we engage our legal dept.
     
    Cheers!






     

    ~r

     

    ron.williams@us.ibm.com
    stsm chief architect x-force exchange   master inventor ibm mobile +1.512.633.7711]
    " May
    you live as long as you want, and love as long as you live " - Robert Heinlein

    http://exchange.xforce.ibmcloud.com

    preferred contact: on
    Slack @ronwilliams








     
     




  • 43.  Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 06:49
    One week is not a sufficient amount of time. Bret   From: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:15 PM To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee Subject: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program   Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name :  STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft  Download Latest Revision Public Download Link   Document Name : STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download Latest Revision Public Download Link  


  • 44.  Re: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments

    Posted 03-13-2018 06:49
    One week is not a sufficient amount of time. Bret   From: cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org <cti-interoperability@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Allan Thomson <athomson@lookingglasscyber.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:15 PM To: cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Interoperability Subcommittee Subject: [EXT] [cti-interoperability] STIX Preferred Documents For Review/Comments   All – I have posted 2 documents that have been drafted by OASIS legal team for   Instructions on STIX Preferred program Terms of use on STIX Preferred program   Please review these documents and if you have any comments or concerns please submit them to the Interop sub-committee by 19 th March (1 week from today).   SUGGESTION: Have your legal or GC teams also review these documents if you plan to have your organization participate in STIX Preferred.   If you would prefer to raise your concerns in person please plan to attend the Interop sub-committee meetings on Weds 9am PST. Details are on Kavi.   We plan to do a ballot on formal TC approval of these documents but we wanted to solicit feedback/comments before we do that.   We expect the ballot to start sometime after 19 th March.   Allan   Document Name :  STIX Preferred Instructions Draft Description STIX Preferred Instructions Draft  Download Latest Revision Public Download Link   Document Name : STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Description STIX Preferred Terms of Use Draft Download Latest Revision Public Download Link