OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

  • 1.  Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-05-2007 14:09

    If anyone has information, please contact Charles directly since he is not on this list.

    -Rob
    ___________________________

    Rob Weir
    Software Architect
    Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
    IBM Software Group

    email: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
    phone: 1-978-399-7122
    blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/

    ----- Forwarded by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM on 02/05/2007 08:54 AM -----
    "Charles-H.Schulz" <charles-h.schulz@arsaperta.com>

    02/05/2007 06:17 AM

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    Hello,

    I've been asked for a comparison between ODF and the legacy file format
    of OpenOffice.org (the .sx* one). Do you have any resources that I could
    use? Perhaps such a comparison does already exist?

    Thank you,

    --
    Charles-H.Schulz,
    Associé / Associate,
    Ars Aperta.



  • 2.  Re: Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-05-2007 14:12
    Hello Robert,
    
    thank you for your message; I'm actually on this list, but usually wish
    to keep developers away from my often nonsensical conversations...
    
    Cheers,
    
    Charles.
    
    robert_weir@us.ibm.com a écrit :
    >
    > If anyone has information, please contact Charles directly since he is
    > not on this list.
    >
    > -Rob
    > ___________________________
    >
    > Rob Weir
    > Software Architect
    > Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
    > IBM Software Group
    >
    > email: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
    > phone: 1-978-399-7122
    > blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/
    > ----- Forwarded by Robert Weir/Cambridge/IBM on 02/05/2007 08:54 AM -----
    > *"Charles-H.Schulz" 


  • 3.  Re: [office] Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-05-2007 15:49
    On Monday 05 February 2007, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
    > I've been asked for a comparison between ODF and the legacy file format
    > of OpenOffice.org (the .sx* one). Do you have any resources that I could
    > use? Perhaps such a comparison does already exist?
    
    This question comes up now and then.
    Did anyone from this list keep a list while the changes were being made to the specification?
    
    My incomplete, out-of-date (and probably too technical) list has:
    
    List of changes that OASIS OpenDocument has compared to OO-1.1 (.sxw).
    ===
    * adds a child under 


  • 4.  Re: [office] Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-06-2007 10:03
    Bonjour David,
    
    Thank you for this list; I'll add two more things to it, the switch to
    the Relax NG schema and the support for the CJK languages.
    I guess this list will be enough....
    
    Best,
    
    Charles.
    
    David Faure a écrit :
    > On Monday 05 February 2007, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
    >   
    >> I've been asked for a comparison between ODF and the legacy file format
    >> of OpenOffice.org (the .sx* one). Do you have any resources that I could
    >> use? Perhaps such a comparison does already exist?
    >>     
    >
    > This question comes up now and then.
    > Did anyone from this list keep a list while the changes were being made to the specification?
    >
    > My incomplete, out-of-date (and probably too technical) list has:
    >
    > List of changes that OASIS OpenDocument has compared to OO-1.1 (.sxw).
    > ===
    > * adds a child under 


  • 5.  Re: [office] Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-06-2007 12:10
    Hi Charles,
    
    the switch to Relax-NG is correct, but CJK languages were supported by 
    OpenOffice.org XML already.
    
    Michael
    
    Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
    > Bonjour David,
    > 
    > Thank you for this list; I'll add two more things to it, the switch to
    > the Relax NG schema and the support for the CJK languages.
    > I guess this list will be enough....
    > 
    > Best,
    > 
    > Charles.
    > 
    > David Faure a écrit :
    >> On Monday 05 February 2007, robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote:
    >>   
    >>> I've been asked for a comparison between ODF and the legacy file format
    >>> of OpenOffice.org (the .sx* one). Do you have any resources that I could
    >>> use? Perhaps such a comparison does already exist?
    >>>     
    >> This question comes up now and then.
    >> Did anyone from this list keep a list while the changes were being made to the specification?
    >>
    >> My incomplete, out-of-date (and probably too technical) list has:
    >>
    >> List of changes that OASIS OpenDocument has compared to OO-1.1 (.sxw).
    >> ===
    >> * adds a child under 


  • 6.  Re: [office] Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-06-2007 16:22
    Rob Weir asked:
    > >>> I've been asked for a comparison between ODF and the legacy file format
    > >>> of OpenOffice.org (the .sx* one). Do you have any resources that I could
    > >>> use? Perhaps such a comparison does already exist?
    
    Go to "Is OpenDocument an Open Standard? Yes!" at:
    http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/opendocument-open.html
    and look at the "No domination" section.  It lists some of the changes made to OpenDocument after the base document was submitted to the standards body.
    
    I don't bother to list all of the changes.  The point of that paper was to show how a REAL standards process works, namely, you start with a base document, then various people propose SUBSTANTIVE changes that change how it works for the betterment of all.  In this case, OpenDocument shows this very nicely - many different people made changes, so that all implementors had to make some real changes.... and all agree that the result was better than the original.
    
    --- David A. Wheeler
    
    
    > >> My incomplete, out-of-date (and probably too technical) list has:...
    
    That's a nice list, and I probably didn't include all of them.  I may add some of these points, they're nice ones (though it'd be nice to know who proposed them!).  Anyone know of any errors in that list, before I try to add some of them?
    
    --- David A. Wheeler
    
    


  • 7.  Re: [office] Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-06-2007 19:43
    Thank you a lot David, beyond my question you wrote a quite interesting
    synthesis on open Open Standards.
    
    Best,
    Charles.
    
    


  • 8.  Re: [office] Fw: [odf-adoption] sxw-odt comparison

    Posted 02-06-2007 19:44
    Michael,
    
    thanks, I'll correct this asap...
    
    Charles.
    
    Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg a écrit :
    > Hi Charles,
    >
    > the switch to Relax-NG is correct, but CJK languages were supported by
    > OpenOffice.org XML already.
    >
    > Michael
    >