anonymous morphed into Jos van den Oever Regina Henschel: I have large problems with my telephone. I might be only able to use the chat. anonymous morphed into Camilla - chat only Michael Stahl: for those who weren't here last week, we were discussing the TC meeting time, and moving it forward a bit:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201707/msg00025.html Jos van den Oever: Patrick: I updated you to chair again Jos van den Oever: Patrick: we have high attendance due to meeting time discussion Jos van den Oever: 18.00 PM in germany, 09.00 on the westcoast Jos van den Oever: is a time that is preferred by some people, no other times were mentioned as preferred Jos van den Oever: Pactrick: is anybody not able to attend at that time? thomas: works for me Jos van den Oever: Patrick: we'll switch to 16:00 UTC (18.00 in germany, 09.00 on the westcoast) for the next meeting on the 24th Jos van den Oever: Patrick: and if we switch back we can enjoy one high attendance meeting again ;-) Michael Stahl:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel Jos van den Oever: Michael noticed a summary page on jira where one can see changes to jira issues. Jos van den Oever: Jos: this is convenient to show the activity since the last meeting Jos van den Oever: Patrick: wonders what it represents exactly Jos van den Oever: since multiple versions of the spec are listed. which version does the graph refer to? Jos van den Oever: Michael: probably all versions Jos van den Oever: Patrick suggests to show the events on the jira as a sort of leadership board or status update at the start of a TC meeting Jos van den Oever: Regina created a new issues for the list style / heading style. Jos van den Oever: It would be good to know how word should behave / what the logic is in there. Jos van den Oever: Michael: what is the logic for picking a list style on a heading? Jos van den Oever: Jos: coulnt you use the text:outline-level? Jos van den Oever: Regina: yes, and the list style is know. One should keep track of the index (the order number) of the heading Jos van den Oever: Regina: one can determine the index by looking at the style that is used in the heading Jos van den Oever: Michael: there is one list for each list element in the way that headings are currently given styles Jos van den Oever: Regina: in a list there is the additional problem that the outline-number can contradict the list level Jos van den Oever: Regina: so we should split into several pieces. (details ommitted because of talking speed, but this is also written in the issue) Jos van den Oever:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 Regina Henschel: documents are in
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201707/msg00020.html Regina Henschel: use HeadingWithoutList.odt as start Michael Stahl: my comments are for the documents attached here, sorry for the confusion:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201706/msg00004.html Jos van den Oever:
https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/software/en Jos van den Oever: Regina: do we have a list of ODF consuming software? Jos van den Oever: Jos: there is a completely incomplete list on the given link, that is software which has worked on the test server Jos van den Oever: Patrick: it's a good thing to keep track of a list for comparison Jos van den Oever: You can upoad here:
https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/upload and then click 'view' to see how documents are rendered Jos van den Oever: or click 'convert to odf 1.2 with ....' Jos van den Oever: you can link directly to the content.xml
https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/unzip/112899/content.xml Jos van den Oever: there's no diff function atm that takes two content.xml Jos van den Oever: but you can compare the rendering
https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/rendercompare/upload/161/150/86/1 Jos van den Oever: unf calligra factory is broken atm, was working on that this weekend Jos van den Oever: Regina: The 'A' and 'B' are unexpected in the Word rendering Jos van den Oever: Regina: The expected text is written under the given heading. Jos van den Oever: Regina: We should postpone this discussion until Arti can comment on Word Jos van den Oever: Michael: let's discuss recent issues which have updates Michael Stahl:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2117 Jos van den Oever: Aarti has provided screenshots:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201707/msg00010.html Jos van den Oever:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/201707/msg00010/ser_labels.png Jos van den Oever: Aartis screenshot shows an extra bit of text rendered near the graph points Svante Schubert: How would the update of the spec would integrate into spec? Does the spec is informative enough without it? Svante Schubert: The attributelist already exists: style-chart-properties-attlist Svante Schubert: Only the four lines would be added: Svante Schubert: <optional> <attribute name= chart:data-label-series > <ref name= boolean /> </attribute> </optional> Svante Schubert: series name equal to column name of table Jos van den Oever: Patrick: it's a useful feature Jos van den Oever: Svante: is the series name equal to the series label? Jos van den Oever: Svante: without the screenshot I might be puzzled by the text. It would help if the text was different so it's clear if the cell value designates the text in the label Svante Schubert: If we drop the screenshot for the udpated spec, is it worth to enhance the wording? Jos van den Oever: Patrick finds the screenshot helpful Jos van den Oever: Patrick: an illustration in the specification would be helpful Svante Schubert: Sometimes screenshots are very helpful for understanding. Find it helpful to look sometimes into the ODF 1.1 specification especially for charts ;) Jos van den Oever: Patrick: the screenshot is not nice enough to put directly in the text Jos van den Oever: Patrick: time's up Jos van den Oever: Patrick: the meeting is later next week Michael Stahl:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2122 Jos van den Oever: Michael: wrote a proposal for Jos van den Oever: Michael: 2122, can people, esp Svante review that? Jos van den Oever: see you all in 169.5 hours Svante Schubert: thx 4 the reminder Svante Schubert: byebye -- Patrick Durusau
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