OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

  • 1.  Proposals and Wiki Categories

    Posted 07-04-2008 12:12
    Rob, all,
    
    I have added an "CategoryNewProposals" to all proposals we have in the 
    Wiki that use the new template. This allows us to dynamically list them.
    
    An example of this is the page
    
    http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/CategoryNewProposal
    
    It list all pages that are in the category "CategoryNewProposal". The 
    list of pages is dynamically created.
    
    We could also use that feature on the page
    
    http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
    
    If we replace the list of proposals that we currently maintain manually 
    by the expression below, then all new proposals would be listed 
    automatically:
    
    [[FullSearch(r:CategoryNewProposal\b -r:CategoryCategory\b)]]
    
    The only difference is that the list is sorted alphabetically and does 
    not reflect the order in which proposals have been added. If this is not 
    an issue, then this dynamic list of pages could actually safe us some 
    administrative work. All that TC members that want to add a proposal 
    would have to do is to create a new page and to add the term 
    "CategoryNewProposal" to it. The page then would be listed automatically.
    
    Well, as long as we have only new proposals the effort to add a link to 
    the initial page is the same as to add a "CategoryNewProposal" to the 
    new page. But when it starts to get interesting is if we add additional 
    categories, like a category for approved proposals.
    
    Right now, if a proposal gets approved, we would have to modify the 
    metadata in the proposal, and we would have to maintain the list of 
    proposals. This is very similar to what we do currently on the 1.2 
    ActionItem page, except that the meta data would be tracked on the page 
    of the proposal itself, rather than on the page that lists the proposal.
    
    If we switch to categories, all that is required is that the category of 
    the page is changed. The lists of proposals would be updated automatically.
    
    A page may belong to multiple categories. This would allow us to create 
    additional categories for proposals that shall be discussed in a TC 
    call, or which shall be voted on. We may for instance agree that TC 
    members that wish to discuss a proposal in one of the next calls add the 
    category "CategoryToBeDiscussed" (or something similar) to the proposal 
    page. We could then list these proposals automatically on a particular 
    page, and could take this ad basis of our meeting agenda. However, this 
    list would not reflect the order of which we get requests. As long as 
    the number of proposals to discuss is limited and if we maybe agree on 
    some time limits for the discussion of proposals in the calls, then this 
    may not be an issue.
    
    Best regards
    
    Michael
    
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  • 2.  Re: [office] Proposals and Wiki Categories

    Posted 07-07-2008 03:34

    Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM wrote on 07/04/2008 08:11:33 AM:

    > Rob, all,
    >
    > I have added an "CategoryNewProposals" to all proposals we have in the
    > Wiki that use the new template. This allows us to dynamically list them.
    >
    > An example of this is the page
    >
    >
    http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/CategoryNewProposal
    >
    > It list all pages that are in the category "CategoryNewProposal". The
    > list of pages is dynamically created.
    >


    Wunderbar!  I was hoping something like this was possible, but didn't see how to do it.  Where did you go to define a new Category?


    > We could also use that feature on the page
    >
    >
    http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/List_of_Proposals
    >
    > If we replace the list of proposals that we currently maintain manually
    > by the expression below, then all new proposals would be listed
    > automatically:
    >
    > [[FullSearch(r:CategoryNewProposal\b -r:CategoryCategory\b)]]
    >
    > The only difference is that the list is sorted alphabetically and does
    > not reflect the order in which proposals have been added. If this is not
    > an issue, then this dynamic list of pages could actually safe us some
    > administrative work. All that TC members that want to add a proposal
    > would have to do is to create a new page and to add the term
    > "CategoryNewProposal" to it. The page then would be listed automatically.
    >


    That would work fine.  We're not necessarily processing proposals in order of submission.  The rules, as they are drafted now, say that the proposals will advance at a pace determined by the proposer.  

    Would I be able to add the "CategoryNewProposal" to the template itself?  So all new proposals are automatically classified?

    I think we will soon require the use of the new proposal form template.  However, it may be a good idea to add the category annotation to the legacy proposals that are still under consideration, so they show up in the same list.

    > Well, as long as we have only new proposals the effort to add a link to
    > the initial page is the same as to add a "CategoryNewProposal" to the
    > new page. But when it starts to get interesting is if we add additional
    > categories, like a category for approved proposals.
    >
    > Right now, if a proposal gets approved, we would have to modify the
    > metadata in the proposal, and we would have to maintain the list of
    > proposals. This is very similar to what we do currently on the 1.2
    > ActionItem page, except that the meta data would be tracked on the page
    > of the proposal itself, rather than on the page that lists the proposal.
    >
    > If we switch to categories, all that is required is that the category of
    > the page is changed. The lists of proposals would be updated automatically.
    >


    Is there anything that gives a timestamp to when you change or add categories?  We need to be able to track when something moves from one state to another.  Maybe that is a manual step.

    > A page may belong to multiple categories. This would allow us to create
    > additional categories for proposals that shall be discussed in a TC
    > call, or which shall be voted on. We may for instance agree that TC
    > members that wish to discuss a proposal in one of the next calls add the
    > category "CategoryToBeDiscussed" (or something similar) to the proposal
    > page. We could then list these proposals automatically on a particular
    > page, and could take this ad basis of our meeting agenda. However, this
    > list would not reflect the order of which we get requests. As long as
    > the number of proposals to discuss is limited and if we maybe agree on
    > some time limits for the discussion of proposals in the calls, then this
    > may not be an issue.

    Some interesting possibilities here.

    -Rob