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Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

  • 1.  Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-16-2013 22:15
    Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [17 Sep – 09 Dec]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Sep – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 2.  RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-16-2013 22:20
    Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 3.  RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-16-2013 22:36
    Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 4.  Request for leave of absence

    Posted 09-16-2013 23:47
    Hi Bryan, can you please put me in for a leave of absence from the Xliff TC activities for the next 2 weeks starting tomorrow? Thank you, Ryan King Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kevin O'Donnell Sent: ?9/?16/?2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 5.  RE: Request for leave of absence

    Posted 09-17-2013 00:04
    Thank you Ryan. You will be on leave of absence status, and retain your voting rights, and most of all, be warmly welcomed back at the end of your leave J   - Bryan   From: Ryan King [mailto:ryanki@microsoft.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:47 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org; Schnabel, Bryan S Subject: Request for leave of absence   Hi Bryan, can you please put me in for a leave of absence from the Xliff TC activities for the next 2 weeks starting tomorrow? Thank you, Ryan King Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kevin O'Donnell Sent: ?9/?16/?2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 6.  Re: [xliff] Request for leave of absence

    Posted 09-17-2013 05:45
    Thanks, Ryan, I will set you as LOA Cheers dF dF is AFK, sent from a mobile phone.. On 17 Sep 2013 00:47, "Ryan King" < ryanki@microsoft.com > wrote: Hi Bryan, can you please put me in for a leave of absence from the Xliff TC activities for the next 2 weeks starting tomorrow? Thank you, Ryan King Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kevin O'Donnell Sent: 9/16/2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 7.  RE: [xliff] Request for leave of absence

    Posted 09-26-2013 19:07
    Hi David, can you please extend my leave of absence by one more week? Thanks, Ryan Sent from my Windows Phone From: Dr. David Filip Sent: ?9/?16/?2013 10:45 PM To: Ryan King Cc: bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xliff] Request for leave of absence Thanks, Ryan, I will set you as LOA Cheers dF dF is AFK, sent from a mobile phone.. On 17 Sep 2013 00:47, "Ryan King" < ryanki@microsoft.com > wrote: Hi Bryan, can you please put me in for a leave of absence from the Xliff TC activities for the next 2 weeks starting tomorrow? Thank you, Ryan King Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kevin O'Donnell Sent: 9/16/2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 8.  Re: [xliff] Request for leave of absence

    Posted 09-26-2013 21:55
    No problem, Ryan, you have not returned from the LOA yet technically, so I just leave it on until you show up on a meeting or until you ask me to lift it to be able to move, second or vote.. Cheers dF Dr. David Filip ======================= LRC CNGL LT-Web CSIS University of Limerick, Ireland telephone: +353-6120-2781 cellphone: +353-86-0222-158 facsimile: +353-6120-2734 mailto: david.filip@ul.ie On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ryan King < ryanki@microsoft.com > wrote: Hi David, can you please extend my leave of absence by one more week? Thanks, Ryan Sent from my Windows Phone From: Dr. David Filip Sent: 9/16/2013 10:45 PM To: Ryan King Cc: bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xliff] Request for leave of absence Thanks, Ryan, I will set you as LOA Cheers dF dF is AFK, sent from a mobile phone.. On 17 Sep 2013 00:47, "Ryan King" < ryanki@microsoft.com > wrote: Hi Bryan, can you please put me in for a leave of absence from the Xliff TC activities for the next 2 weeks starting tomorrow? Thank you, Ryan King Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kevin O'Donnell Sent: 9/16/2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S ; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 9.  RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-17-2013 00:02
    Kevin (and Chet, a follow on question for you at the end),   Good question. Here’s how it works (I’m summarizing 3.4.3 Initial Balloting for OASIS Standard approval from https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ).   After we submit there is another long public review. At the end a 14-day voting period begins. If at least 15% of the voting OASIS Membership votes to approve, and we get no votes that disapprove, XLIFF 2.0 is a standard. If we less than 15% vote the ballot fails. If we get negative votes and they amount to 25% or more of all votes cast, the ballot fails. If at least 15% vote, and we get negative votes, but they amount to less than 25% of all votes cast,  we can request that the TC Admin approves the standard (which presumably he would); or withdraw the submission; or amend the submission to address the negative votes.   Last time we got only approving votes, but just eked out enough votes to hit the 15%.   So that’s the technical answer. Chet, please feel free to elaborate if I missed anything.   But I suspect what you really want to know is what are the (rough) numbers.   Chet, could you please help us with this? What is the total number of OASIS Organizational Members at the moment? With this we can extrapolate the percentages.   Thanks,   Bryan   From: Kevin O'Donnell [mailto:kevinod@microsoft.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan


  • 10.  Re: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-17-2013 19:52
    Bryan, you have the basics right. The TC will need to pass a motion requesting that I hold a Special Majority Vote of the TC to approve sending the CS to the membership for consideration as a Candidate OASIS Standard. After that vote passes, I prepare the COS and it goes out for 60 day public review.  As of today, there are 323 active organizational members, so you will need 49 affirmative votes to pass.  /chet On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Schnabel, Bryan S < bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com > wrote: Kevin (and Chet, a follow on question for you at the end),   Good question. Here’s how it works (I’m summarizing 3.4.3 Initial Balloting for OASIS Standard approval from https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ).   After we submit there is another long public review. At the end a 14-day voting period begins. If at least 15% of the voting OASIS Membership votes to approve, and we get no votes that disapprove, XLIFF 2.0 is a standard. If we less than 15% vote the ballot fails. If we get negative votes and they amount to 25% or more of all votes cast, the ballot fails. If at least 15% vote, and we get negative votes, but they amount to less than 25% of all votes cast,  we can request that the TC Admin approves the standard (which presumably he would); or withdraw the submission; or amend the submission to address the negative votes.   Last time we got only approving votes, but just eked out enough votes to hit the 15%.   So that’s the technical answer. Chet, please feel free to elaborate if I missed anything.   But I suspect what you really want to know is what are the (rough) numbers.   Chet, could you please help us with this? What is the total number of OASIS Organizational Members at the moment? With this we can extrapolate the percentages.   Thanks,   Bryan   From: Kevin O'Donnell [mailto: kevinod@microsoft.com ] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan -- /chet  ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration  OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393  Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html   TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn:     http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter:         http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook:   http://facebook.com/oasis.open


  • 11.  RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-17-2013 23:16
    Thanks Chet. Quite useful.   And if memory serves, when we passed XLIFF 1.2, Mary gave us a list of the 323 along with their contact information (so we could kiss babies and twist arms to get people to remember to vote). Is that still part of the workflow? Or is there a url for the 323?   Thanks,   Bryan   From: Chet Ensign [mailto:chet.ensign@oasis-open.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:52 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Bryan, you have the basics right. The TC will need to pass a motion requesting that I hold a Special Majority Vote of the TC to approve sending the CS to the membership for consideration as a Candidate OASIS Standard. After that vote passes, I prepare the COS and it goes out for 60 day public review.    As of today, there are 323 active organizational members, so you will need 49 affirmative votes to pass.    /chet   On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Schnabel, Bryan S < bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com > wrote: Kevin (and Chet, a follow on question for you at the end),   Good question. Here’s how it works (I’m summarizing 3.4.3 Initial Balloting for OASIS Standard approval from https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ).   After we submit there is another long public review. At the end a 14-day voting period begins. If at least 15% of the voting OASIS Membership votes to approve, and we get no votes that disapprove, XLIFF 2.0 is a standard. If we less than 15% vote the ballot fails. If we get negative votes and they amount to 25% or more of all votes cast, the ballot fails. If at least 15% vote, and we get negative votes, but they amount to less than 25% of all votes cast,  we can request that the TC Admin approves the standard (which presumably he would); or withdraw the submission; or amend the submission to address the negative votes.   Last time we got only approving votes, but just eked out enough votes to hit the 15%.   So that’s the technical answer. Chet, please feel free to elaborate if I missed anything.   But I suspect what you really want to know is what are the (rough) numbers.   Chet, could you please help us with this? What is the total number of OASIS Organizational Members at the moment? With this we can extrapolate the percentages.   Thanks,   Bryan   From: Kevin O'Donnell [mailto: kevinod@microsoft.com ] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan   -- /chet  ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration  OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393    Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html   TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn:     http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter:         http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook:   http://facebook.com/oasis.open


  • 12.  Re: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard

    Posted 09-18-2013 12:25
    You can download them yourselves as it is public information but I pull the spread sheet anyway to confirm my count and I will send that along to you.  /chet On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Schnabel, Bryan S < bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com > wrote: Thanks Chet. Quite useful.   And if memory serves, when we passed XLIFF 1.2, Mary gave us a list of the 323 along with their contact information (so we could kiss babies and twist arms to get people to remember to vote). Is that still part of the workflow? Or is there a url for the 323?   Thanks,   Bryan   From: Chet Ensign [mailto: chet.ensign@oasis-open.org ] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:52 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Bryan, you have the basics right. The TC will need to pass a motion requesting that I hold a Special Majority Vote of the TC to approve sending the CS to the membership for consideration as a Candidate OASIS Standard. After that vote passes, I prepare the COS and it goes out for 60 day public review.    As of today, there are 323 active organizational members, so you will need 49 affirmative votes to pass.    /chet   On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Schnabel, Bryan S < bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com > wrote: Kevin (and Chet, a follow on question for you at the end),   Good question. Here’s how it works (I’m summarizing 3.4.3 Initial Balloting for OASIS Standard approval from https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ).   After we submit there is another long public review. At the end a 14-day voting period begins. If at least 15% of the voting OASIS Membership votes to approve, and we get no votes that disapprove, XLIFF 2.0 is a standard. If we less than 15% vote the ballot fails. If we get negative votes and they amount to 25% or more of all votes cast, the ballot fails. If at least 15% vote, and we get negative votes, but they amount to less than 25% of all votes cast,  we can request that the TC Admin approves the standard (which presumably he would); or withdraw the submission; or amend the submission to address the negative votes.   Last time we got only approving votes, but just eked out enough votes to hit the 15%.   So that’s the technical answer. Chet, please feel free to elaborate if I missed anything.   But I suspect what you really want to know is what are the (rough) numbers.   Chet, could you please help us with this? What is the total number of OASIS Organizational Members at the moment? With this we can extrapolate the percentages.   Thanks,   Bryan   From: Kevin O'Donnell [mailto: kevinod@microsoft.com ] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:36 PM To: Schnabel, Bryan S; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Bryan, do you the details of what’s required in the final OASIS specification approval ballot? Do we need a certain number of votes or a majority of votes?   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:20 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Fixed some copy-paste errors – outcome is the same.   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 3:15 PM To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Updated Timeline for progression toward XLIFF 2.0 OASIS Standard   Hello,   As promised, I recalculated our timeline based on the timing of our PR2 (assuming PR2 is launched by OASIS by 16 Sep).   If I simply update the previous timeline ( https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201306/msg00042.html ) with the new dates, as fate would have it, we'd have (in my opinion) the absolutely most perfectly bad time imaginable for the ballot for OASIS Specification dates: 23 Dec – 06 Jan.   The unfortunate timing is nearly poetic in its misfortune:   1. Reconciled each PR1 comment: [03 Sep] 2. Statements of Use [identify by 16 Oct]   A. Must have a statement of use for each core feature   B. Should have a statement of use for each module feature   B. Test Suite (1 application vs. ecosystem of tools)      i. Reference Implementation (one implementation that touches each feature): nice to have; not must have [identify by 16 Oct; roll out by 04 Dec]      ii. Ecosystem of tools [identify list by 16 Oct; roll out by 20 Nov] 3. Re-approved Committee Draft (that reflects resolved comments, https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeDraft ) [03 Sep] 4. Second Public Review, 15-day [17 Sep – 30 Sep] 5. Approve Committee Specification ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#committeeSpec ) [16 Oct] 6. Approve OASIS Standard  ( https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard ) [16 Oct – 06 Jan]   A. Submit Candidate Specification [16 Oct]   B. Public Review of Candidate Specification (60 days) [23 Oct – 20 Dec]   C. Ballot for OASIS Specification approval [23 Dec – 06 Jan]   So I think we need to adjust the date on step 5. It will either need to move in, or move back. Let's discuss at the next meeting.   Thanks,   Bryan   -- /chet  ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration  OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393     Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html   TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn:     http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter:         http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook:   http://facebook.com/oasis.open -- /chet  ---------------- Chet Ensign Director of Standards Development and TC Administration  OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org Primary: +1 973-996-2298 Mobile: +1 201-341-1393  Check your work using the Support Request Submission Checklist at  http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/47248/tc-admin-submission-checklist.html   TC Administration information and support is available at http://www.oasis-open.org/resources/tcadmin Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn:     http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter:         http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook:   http://facebook.com/oasis.open