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RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] agenda for Tuesday 11June

  • 1.  RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] agenda for Tuesday 11June

    Posted 06-11-2002 14:56
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    Subject: RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] agenda for Tuesday 11June


    
    Alan,
    
    I too would like to not have the issue of whether or not an entity is
    persistent stay within the Producer, but scenarios such as the one Eilon
    points out have driven us toward a design where the Consumer is able to
    create a persistent entity and then use this persistent entity as the basis
    for creating a variable number of transient entities whose interaction
    states are  independent of each other, each often having a tweak in the
    initial state as well. It is only the Consumer who has the knowledge of
    when to orchestrate the difference in the lifecycles.
    
    Rich
    
    
                                                                                                                         
                          Eilon Reshef                                                                                   
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                          06/11/2002 02:35          Subject:  RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] agenda for  
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    Alan,
    
    I think that one example scenario is a search results page, say for hotels,
    that dynamically displays multiple maps - a map for each hotel found.
    
    Assuming that maps are remote services, and assuming that the number of
    results is dynamic, the Consumer needs to create multiple copies of the map
    service. If we allow the Producer to determine the persistence state of
    those maps, that would mean that someone will have to take care of the
    lifetime of those maps. The Consumer can't, because the page may be gone
    without the Consumer never knowing about it (the user closes the browser
    window). The Producer can't, because it can't tell whether the Consumer has
    stored a reference to those maps as part of a design-time description of a
    user page.
    
    Is that along the lines of what you were looking for?
    
    Eilon