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Re: [office] Proposal for table templates

  • 1.  Re: [office] Proposal for table templates

    Posted 02-15-2006 12:30
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    Subject: Re: [office] Proposal for table templates


    Hi David,
    
    why not write
    
    <table:table-template>
    
        <table:first-row text:style-name="blueish"/>
    ...
    
    </table:table-template>
    
    with
    
    <style:style style:name="blueish" style:display-name="Blueish cell" 
    style:family="table-cell">
    <style:table-cell-properties [....] />
    <style:paragraph-properies [...] />
    </style:style>
    
    
    as done in the analogous case of
    
    <style:style style:name="mypar" style:family="paragraph">
    <style:text-properies [...] />
    <style:paragraph-properies [...] />
    </style:style>
    
    
    Best regards,
    
    Florian
    
    
    
    >We discussed today the need to include paragraph styles in table templates,
    >so that it's clear which paragraph styles will be used in every cell when
    >creating a table using a table template.
    >
    >Currently it looks like
    >  <table:table-template>
    >     <table:first-row text:style-name="blueish"/>
    >     <table:first-column text:style-name="lightgray"/>
    >     <table:body      text:style-name="default"/>
    >  </table:table-template>
    >where the styles referenced by name are expected to be table-cell styles.
    >
    >Solution A
    >
    >  Referencing both the cell style and the paragraph style from the table
    >template.
    >
    >  <table:table-template>
    >     <table:first-row text:style-name="blueish" text:paragraph-style-name="Heading_1"/>
    >     <table:first-column text:style-name="lightgray" text:paragraph-style-name="Normal"/>
    >     <table:body      text:style-name="default" text:paragraph-style-name="Body text"/>
    >  </table:table-template>
    >
    >  This reads a bit strange since "style-name" should rather be "cell-style-name",
    >  and it doesn't integrate the paragraph style into the cell style like the next solution does:
    >
    >Solution B
    >
    >  Referencing the paragraph style from the cell style
    >
    >  If the user himself can define named styles for table-cells, then it is
    >  expected that those styles include the name of a paragraph style.
    >  (See "Table / Table Style Manager" in KWord)
    >
    >  So the cell style "blueish" from the table template would refer to a cell
    >  style defined as 
    >
    >    <style:style style:name="blueish" style:display-name="Blueish cell" style:family="table-cell">
    >      <style:table-cell-properties [....] text:paragraph-style-name="Heading_1"/>
    >    </style:style>
    >
    >
    >
    >To go even further, the current cell styles in KOffice look like:
    >
    >    <style:style style:name="blueish" style:display-name="Blueish cell" style:family="table-cell">
    >      <style:table-cell-properties koffice:frame-style-name="fr6" koffice:paragraph-style-name="U3"/>
    >    </style:style>
    >
    >where the frame style "fr6" is a style with family="graphic", which defines
    >background color and border, instead of defining those properties into the
    >table-cell-properties directly. For automatic styles this makes no
    >difference, it's just as easy to generate an automatic style that refers
    >to another one. But for named styles created by the user, this allows to
    >have cell styles which refer to an existing frame style as well as an
    >existing paragraph style. The format shouldn't mandate how users should
    >work with named styles in an application though, so one could say that the format
    >should allow both ways of defining table-cell styles: either by defining
    >all the properties into the table cell style (which can certainly be useful for
    >actual table cells), or defining the properties in graphic and paragraph
    >styles refered by the table cell style, by name. But in fact, an application
    >which simply stores the border and background properties into the table-cell
    >style, could do that with the first model, by simply generating an automatic 
    >frame-style and reference it from the table-cell style... so we don't really
    >need both ways, except to preserve compatibility with OpenDocument-1.0,
    >which seems useless for table templates since they haven't been used yet
    >in either OOo or KWord.
    >
    >So actually... forget solutions A and B: 
    >my proposal is to make table templates point to a new kind of style, let's say
    >table-cell-template, which would point to a graphic style and a paragraph style by name.
    >
    >  <table:table-template>
    >     <table:first-row text:style-name="blueish"/>
    >     <table:first-column text:style-name="lightgray"/>
    >     <table:body      text:style-name="default"/>
    >  </table:table-template>
    >
    >just like currently, but
    >
    >    <style:style style:name="blueish" style:display-name="Blueish cell" style:family="table-cell-template">  <!-- note the family -->
    >      <style:table-cell-properties text:graphic-style-name="blue_with_border" text:paragraph-style-name="Heading_1"/>
    >    </style:style>
    >
    >where blue_with_border could either be a real (named) graphic style, or an automatic one. 
    >That style would be used to define background and borders in particular.
    >
    >
    
    
    


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