OASIS eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) TC

  • 1.  deprecation

    Posted 01-29-2009 17:16
    This appears to be what the IETF defines in this area:
    
    /*
    
    If a definition is "deprecated" then it simply means that it's no  
    longer of major importance...and need not be implemented except for  
    backwards compatibility with older agents that do implement them.  It  
    also means that at some point in the future those definitions may have  
    replacements and the old definitions will be made "obsolete".
    
    If it's "obsolete" then it usually means that are new definitions that  
    replace the old ones and the new ones should be used in any new  
    implementation (and, if possible, old implementations should be  
    brought in line with the new definitions).
    
    */
    
    ...my thinking is that whichever way we go we will need to have  
    explicit definition within our spec that defines those things being  
    teed up for replacement and those that are no longer valid.
    
    b
    


  • 2.  Re: [xacml] deprecation

    Posted 01-29-2009 20:18

    I think that we should not go with any of these for this release, but just note that we plan to deprecate these in next release and that these are still required algorithms for this release along with the new ones

    Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122

    Bill Parducci ---01/29/2009 11:17:08 AM---This appears to be what the IETF defines in this area:


    From:

    Bill Parducci <bill@parducci.net>

    To:

    XACML TC <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org>

    Date:

    01/29/2009 11:17 AM

    Subject:

    [xacml] deprecation




    This appears to be what the IETF defines in this area:

    /*

    If a definition is "deprecated" then it simply means that it's no  
    longer of major importance...and need not be implemented except for  
    backwards compatibility with older agents that do implement them.  It  
    also means that at some point in the future those definitions may have  
    replacements and the old definitions will be made "obsolete".

    If it's "obsolete" then it usually means that are new definitions that  
    replace the old ones and the new ones should be used in any new  
    implementation (and, if possible, old implementations should be  
    brought in line with the new definitions).

    */

    ...my thinking is that whichever way we go we will need to have  
    explicit definition within our spec that defines those things being  
    teed up for replacement and those that are no longer valid.

    b

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  • 3.  Re: [xacml] deprecation

    Posted 01-29-2009 21:37
    On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:
    > I think that we should not go with any of these for this release,  
    > but just note that we plan to deprecate these in next release and  
    > that these are still required algorithms for this release along with  
    > the new ones
    >
    > Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
    >
    
    I think the consensus on the call was along those lines. Both versions  
    are required, however the v3 set was to be noted as preferred for new  
    implementations. I suggested that for clarity of intent we note in the  
    spec that the v2 set be notated with something like "marked for  
    deprecation in future versions" so that implementers can be forewarned  
    (of something that may happen in subsequent versions).
    
    Again, whatever we do in this instance I think we should consider  
    creating the syntax for defining those things that are being replaced  
    with those that have been. I don't see a downside to providing intent  
    of the TC.
    
    b
    
    


  • 4.  Re: [xacml] deprecation

    Posted 01-30-2009 08:54
    Maybe we can use the term "Planned for future deprecation"? Meaning that 
    they are still required, but users should avoid using them for new policies.
    
    Regards,
    Erik
    
    Bill Parducci wrote:
    >
    > On Jan 29, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:
    >> I think that we should not go with any of these for this release, but 
    >> just note that we plan to deprecate these in next release and that 
    >> these are still required algorithms for this release along with the 
    >> new ones
    >>
    >> Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122
    >>
    >
    > I think the consensus on the call was along those lines. Both versions 
    > are required, however the v3 set was to be noted as preferred for new 
    > implementations. I suggested that for clarity of intent we note in the 
    > spec that the v2 set be notated with something like "marked for 
    > deprecation in future versions" so that implementers can be forewarned 
    > (of something that may happen in subsequent versions).
    >
    > Again, whatever we do in this instance I think we should consider 
    > creating the syntax for defining those things that are being replaced 
    > with those that have been. I don't see a downside to providing intent 
    > of the TC.
    >
    > b
    >
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