[17:57] Svante: Greetings! The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2023-12-18 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 11 December 2023 -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00025.html 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda 4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o 5. Status our release to OASIS (was planned after this meeting before ODF tooling change on the 14 December) (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick) 6. Volunteers of upcoming calls 7. OFFICE-3841: The color mode "Watermark" makes images pale, not transparent (Presenter: Regina) 8. Agreement on ODF JIRA WorkFlow 9. Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF Next 10. Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF-Later 11. Ideas to make our TC work more efficient? 12. OFFICE-4109: How shall we proceed with the existing issue for default values: 13. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color" 14. OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph 15. OFFICE-4124: 'clear' attribute for line breaks 16. OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear 17. Adjournment. [18:02] Svante: 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights [18:02] Svante: We have a quorum! [18:02] Svante: 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 11 December 2023 -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00025.html [18:02] Svante: Minutes approved! [18:02] Svante: 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda [18:04] Svante: Agenda approved! [18:05] Svante: 4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o [18:06] Svante: Francis: The GitHub working draft was good to go (as noted last week), but the header/footer had to be adopted with the latest data (e.g. version#)! [18:07] Svante: Regina: Hyperlinks in Column B do not work. [18:07] Svante: Perhaps a Google issue? Francis will try some workaround! [18:08] Svante: 5. Status our release to OASIS (was planned after this meeting before ODF tooling change on the 14 December) (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick) [18:08] Svante: Patrick: OASIS tooling was postponed [18:08] Svante: Regina: We should add the draft to the old tooling [18:09] Svante: Patrick: Has not uploaded till now the latest draft, but it was cleaned and a version is in GitHub. Doing the upload now! [18:16] Svante: Francis: There are some problems found afterwards, we likely need a second working draft for ODF 1.4 [18:17] Francis Cave: See Part 3, 20.54 chart:series-source [18:17] Svante:
https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#__RefHeading__1419522_253892949 [18:18] Francis Cave: See also JIRA issue
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4134 [18:18] Francis Cave: OFFICE-3741 removed the attribute table:cell-range-address [18:20] Svante: Francis: But not listed in the appendix is 19.17 chart:data-source-has-labels (deprecated) [18:20] Svante:
https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#__RefHeading__1416660_253892949 [18:22] Svante: The deletion of table:cell-range-address is listed in the appendix, but the deletion of its references is not! [18:28] Svante: Regina: We group the two changes under the same heading [18:29] Regina Henschel: We extend the heading to mention consequential changes [18:29] Francis Cave: We group the consequential changes to 19.17 and 20.54 under the same heading as the removal of table:cell-range-address [18:29] Svante: We all agree on the above! [18:31] Francis Cave: Revisions to Appendix in Part 2, as agreed at the last meeting, have not yet been made. [18:32] Francis Cave: Will be made for WD-02. [18:33] Svante: 6. Volunteers of next call (Presenter: Svante) TC members name (type in) an issue number (e.g. from our working query below) that they volunteer to present at the following TC meeting, Or a random issue will be given. Issues and presenters will be added to the agenda right after the call! [18:37] Svante: Alfred takes his empty cell semantic from last time (over some weeks) [18:37] Svante: I will take a fragment identifier [18:38] Svante: ^^explicit issue references will follow next year! :-) [18:39] Regina Henschel: I will take a feature that is already implemented in LibreOffice, and write a new proposal for that. [18:42] Svante: We could use a fast release of a committee specification (2 weeks review?) [18:46] Svante: to be able to add new features quickly into the CS with an official XML useable by OD_F implementations [18:47] Svante: Agreement on the above - as we like to write the agenda as well after the call (after the minutes) [18:48] Svante: 7. OFFICE-3841: The color mode "Watermark" makes images pale, not transparent (Presenter: Regina)
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3841 The agreement was missing in the last agenda: Do we all agree to postpone this issue by changing status to DEFERRED? [18:48] Svante: We all agree on putting 3841 to DEFERRED [18:50] Svante: 8. Presenter: Svante Agreement on ODF JIRA WorkFlow Please take a look at the tooltip of RESOLVED and APPLIED from our workflow:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/plugins/servlet/project-config/OFFICE/workflow/?name=TC%20Issues The default JIRA workflow is:
https://confluence.atlassian.com/jira064/what-is-workflow-720416127.html RESOLVED as soon the TC agreed on a proposal APPLIED - as soon the required changes from the issue were added by the editors to the deliverables CLOSED - as soon the applied changes were reviewed as correct in the specification (or does at least a Committee specification has to be delivered)? [18:50] Svante: Regina solved this issue already today on the list:
https://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/TCHandbook/content/tcoperations/issuestracking.htm [18:53] Svante: "Closed - An issue that has either been rejected or resolved and incorporated into a Committee-approved work product. " [18:53] Svante: Would be closed as soon as in a Committee Specification. [18:53] Svante: The review has to be added to the editor spreadsheet - not yet in a JIRA field.. [18:55] Svante: Francis: There are four columns in the spreadsheet! [18:55] Svante: 9. Presenter: Svante Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF Next Shall we drop the target ODF-Next in favor to a specific version number (even if we rename the label afterwards - we might want to test to change ODF-Next to ODF 1.6) [18:55] Svante: and very similar the following agenda item #10 [18:55] Svante: 10. Presenter: Svante Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF-Later Shall we drop in the future ODF-Later in favor of the status DEFERRED? [18:55] Regina Henschel: Fix version "ODF-Later" has currently now useful meaning. It is even used for issues with status "New". [18:57] Regina Henschel: We agree to not use "ODF-Later" any longer. [18:57] Regina Henschel: We agree to correct the FixVersion field, whenever we touch an issue again, that has an "ODF-Later" set, but do not make a bulk change. [19:01] Francis Cave: I propose to remove 'ODF-Later' from JIRA issues that are 'CLOSED' or 'DEFERRED'. [19:06] Svante: Alfred: No version label until we have resolved it! [19:06] Svante: We are running out of time and will continue with this topic next year! [19:06] Svante: Next call is on the 8th of January.