Minutes of UBL TC call 15 July 2020 14:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2020-07-15T14:00:00 Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
Participation
Todd Albers
Oriol Bausa Peris
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Peter Borresen
Andrea Caccia
Kees Duvekot
Cecile Guasch
Philip Helger
Ken Holman
Yves Jordan
Ole Madsen
Matt Vickers
Pacific call:
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Ken Holman
Levine Naidoo
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Standing items
Additions to events calendar -
http://ubl.xml.org/events Nothing
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00012.html Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00003.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups
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Oriol Bausa Peris
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT
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Ger Clancy
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Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie platform e-factureren
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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Philip Helger
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Member OASIS BDXR
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G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR
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Yves Jordan
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Ole Madsen
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DK Member CEN/TC440
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Natalie Muric
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Levine Naidoo
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Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML
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Matt Vickers
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition, Director US Data Coalition, Member ETAAC
UBL 2.3
ISO submission
Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html ISO requirements being discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 UBL 2.3 CSPRD03
Work list and action items in minutes from May 2020 work session:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202005/msg00013.html New requirements:
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New abbreviations:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/202006/msg00000.html Latest hub document:
https://github.com/oasis-tcs/ubl-2.3-hub/actions/runs/120910386 -
Rui will review changes to the transportation documents.
Waiting for last examples from TSC. Latest submission from the TSC:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GdRo6uAhASCBGhnolDdFw1KzQo_p32gc/view?ts=5efa1009 Schematron for testing additional document constraints
See:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00004.html UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Levine and Oriol working on updated Payment Means committee note.
UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Peppol has kicked off a new pre-award subcommittee and intends to base their use on UBL 2.3. Cecile is following up.
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Can we add a section to the specification to explain consolidated waybills? TSC will submit a proposal.
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
NDRs need to be updated with a note regarding Unicode point ordering of ABIEs, see:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-289 UBL governance document has been revised and all of the 6 NDR documents are now published here, for review:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=67307 Formation of new Business Master Data Subcommittee
First draft of a charter for a Business Master Data Subcommittee posted here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-pre-award/202001/msg00000.html Any comments or suggestions for the subcommittee charter?
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Should we include a definition of master data in the statement of purpose?
Candidate(s) for subcommittee chair(s)?
Discussions to be resumed in September.
TC Liaisons
ISO TC 204/WG7
Agreed at the September 11, 2019 TC conference call to seek a formal liaison with ISO TC 204/WG7 specifically for collaborating on the new ISO 24533 specification.
We need to appoint a liaison, preferably someone who is a member of both groups. See also:
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons CEN TC 434
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
CEN informs that a liaison cannot be established at TC level. Awaiting feedback from OASIS.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1 is open to establish a formal liaison. Ken and Andrea participated in the last WG 1 meeting.
Next SC 32 meeting will be June 4. All working groups will meet between June 4 and mid-August.
WG 1 had their first e-invoicing meeting last week. It is deemed convenient to establish a formal liaison between WG 1 and this TC. Andrea volunteered as liaison.
OASIS Liaison Policy:
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons Does the TC approve appointing Andrea Caccia as liaison representative between the ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1 and the OASIS UBL TC, in accordance with the above OASIS Liaison Policy?
Motion made by Ken. Seconded by Levine. Approved by all members attending the Pacific and Atlantic calls. Kenneth will inform OASIS about the decision.
JIRA tickets
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BDNDR:
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All UBL:
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TCAdmin:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.
Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.
JIRA status and resolution value definitions
Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.
Our current definitions are:
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NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
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in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
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the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
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please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
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OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
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keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
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please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test
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RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released
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RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
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RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
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RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution
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RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution
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APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
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DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
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please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes
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See also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html Subcommittee conference calls
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Transportation Subcommittee will be on hold until after August.
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Pre-award Subcommittee will be on hold until further notice, unless there is a request for a meeting.
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
Face-to-face
Agreed to cancel face-to-face meeting in September, as traveling in is challenging for many TC members. Agreed to plan another online work sessions around UBL 2.3 public reviews, next time after end of PRD03.
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2020-07-14/2020-07-15
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/16:00Lima/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-07-22
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Pacific: No call
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-07-28/2020-07-29
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/16:00Lima/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-08-05
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Pacific: No call
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-08-11/2020-08-12
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/16:00Lima/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-08-19
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Pacific: No call
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-08-25/2020-08-26
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/16:00Lima/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
Agreed to keep the current Pacific call schedule for the months of July and August as well.
Outline of teleconference times for 2020
See:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201912/msg00006.html TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
Other business
Nothing