OASIS XML Localisation Interchange File Format (XLIFF) TC

  • 1.  Groups - XLIFF TC Telelconference added

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  • 2.  [xliff] TC Teleconference - Summary

    Posted 07-20-2010 16:14
    XLIFF TC Teleconference - Summary
    Date:  Tuesday, 20 July 2010
    Time:  11:00am - 12:00pm ET
    
    
    === 1/ Roll call
    
    Present: Asgeir, Bryan, Yves, Christian, Lucia, Dimitra, David, Doug, Arle
    Regrets: Rodolfo
    
     
    === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 1 June 2010 meeting minutes:
    (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201006/msg00000.html)
    
    Asgeir moves to approve minutes.
    Bryan seconds.
    No objections
    
    Bryan: Discussion for conformance moved after v2 discussion. Is it ok?
    David: May be needed during the work on features to insure we can enforce the features.
    Bryan: OK for concurrent work then.
    
    
    
    === 3.1. Updates on the 1st International XLIFF Symposium
    
    Dimitra: program finalized. Maybe 15mn to discuss it?
    David: second.
    Asgeir, Christian, Bryan, Yves: sounds fine.
    
    David presents the program...
    One day, very full, dominant topic: "minimal & modular"
    Panels and presentation, several tracks too.
    
    ACTION ITEM: Bryan to look at the possibility to do an OASIS Webinar for one of the panel.
    
    
    
    === 3.2. Possible to get more work done by scheduling face-to-face meetings
    (Lucia created a poll http://www.doodle.com/ra63ue77nevp976a )
    
    ACTION ITEM: All to visit http://www.doodle.com/ra63ue77nevp976a and see where you would be possibly present.
    For more dates: ask Lucia to modify the poll.
    
    
    
    === 3.3 Move our spec into Docbook (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201007/msg00009.html)?
    
    Authoring in DocBook will allow more controlled output.
    DITA has also a toolkit, but not quite ready.
    Pros: Working from DocBook would ensure proper OASIS-official output.
    Cons: Editors need DocBook DTD. Rodolfo is ok with that.
    
    Bryan: propose to adopt this approach.
    Yves: think it's a good idea
    Doug: same but wonder about the availability of editing tools.
    Bryan: most commercial tool would be ok, less sure for open-source, but SERNA Has support (http://www.syntext.com/products/serna/docbook-xml-format-support/)
    See also: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookPublishingTools
    Don't know exactly the sub-set allowed
    Asgeir: good move, presentation guide was done in DocBook. But having the source under version control is important too.
    Bryan: yes
    
    
    
    === 4/ XLIFF Inline text SC report
    
    Yves: going through the requirements, will try to work by email a bit too.
    Arle: working on getting OSCAR feedback
    
    
    
    === OpenTM2-related question from Arle
    
    Arle: XLIFF planned as the portability layer between Joomla and OpenTM2. But some metadata "is missing" apparently.
    Christian:  From my understanding, we already now have mechanisms (extension points) in XLIFF that would allow additional meta data to be accommodated.
    David: There are plans to form a Metadata SC, so this would be useful input.
    Arle: So we'll try to work through the TC for this.
    David: maybe related to DITA as well.
    Doug: for our CMS we use the XLIFF tool element (with extended namespace).
    Arle: I think they talk about a more general set of metadata that can be shared.
    Bryan: working with Drupal as well, maybe some common part too.
    
    
    
    === 7/ XLIFF 2.0
    
    Bryan: Second meeting in August is the DEADLINE for Features
    Maybe we can extend one week since we have missed one meeting.
    David: maybe after the symposium would be better.
    Bryan: Possibly. I'll go back to decision to see if we need formal change.
    
    ACTION ITEM: Bryan to check on deadline.
    
    Need to consolidate the feature set:
    ACTION ITEM: All to look at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0 and see if any need to be moved to http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking
    
    Then we can go through the items and decide.
    If we have few v2 features we may want to go there instead of working on 1.2 errata.
    
    Dimitra: if I have some changes to propose (rather than feature) how should I enter that?
    Bryan: ok to put this in the feature tracking page
    
    
    - meeting adjourned
    
    
    
    


  • 3.  RE: [xliff] TC Teleconference - Summary

    Posted 07-20-2010 16:40
    Hi Dee,
    
    I'd like to ask about a potential XLIFF webinar, facilitated by OASIS. Please note in the XLIFF TC meeting minutes below, item "=== 3.1. Updates on the 1st International XLIFF Symposium." We are holding our First Annual XLIFF International Symposium, September 20, in Limerick Ireland (http://www.localisation.ie/xliff/). Among the agenda items are two panels: 11:50 - 12:40 XLIFF Minimal and Modular; and 16:40 - 17:30 XLIFF Metadata (all times are GMT).
    
    TC members expressed an interest in conducting one, or both of these panels as OASIS webinars. It would be a first for me: a live panel discussion at a symposium where webinar attendees could participate in real-time.
    
    I realize quite a few details would need to be worked out on both ends. I just wanted to see if you thought this could be a good idea, and if so, what our next steps might be.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Bryan
    
    
    
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    Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:14 AM
    To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [xliff] TC Teleconference - Summary
    
    XLIFF TC Teleconference - Summary
    Date:  Tuesday, 20 July 2010
    Time:  11:00am - 12:00pm ET
    
    
    === 1/ Roll call
    
    Present: Asgeir, Bryan, Yves, Christian, Lucia, Dimitra, David, Doug, Arle
    Regrets: Rodolfo
    
    
    === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 1 June 2010 meeting minutes:
    (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201006/msg00000.html)
    
    Asgeir moves to approve minutes.
    Bryan seconds.
    No objections
    
    Bryan: Discussion for conformance moved after v2 discussion. Is it ok?
    David: May be needed during the work on features to insure we can enforce the features.
    Bryan: OK for concurrent work then.
    
    
    
    === 3.1. Updates on the 1st International XLIFF Symposium
    
    Dimitra: program finalized. Maybe 15mn to discuss it?
    David: second.
    Asgeir, Christian, Bryan, Yves: sounds fine.
    
    David presents the program...
    One day, very full, dominant topic: "minimal & modular"
    Panels and presentation, several tracks too.
    
    ACTION ITEM: Bryan to look at the possibility to do an OASIS Webinar for one of the panel.
    
    
    
    === 3.2. Possible to get more work done by scheduling face-to-face meetings
    (Lucia created a poll http://www.doodle.com/ra63ue77nevp976a )
    
    ACTION ITEM: All to visit http://www.doodle.com/ra63ue77nevp976a and see where you would be possibly present.
    For more dates: ask Lucia to modify the poll.
    
    
    
    === 3.3 Move our spec into Docbook (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201007/msg00009.html)?
    
    Authoring in DocBook will allow more controlled output.
    DITA has also a toolkit, but not quite ready.
    Pros: Working from DocBook would ensure proper OASIS-official output.
    Cons: Editors need DocBook DTD. Rodolfo is ok with that.
    
    Bryan: propose to adopt this approach.
    Yves: think it's a good idea
    Doug: same but wonder about the availability of editing tools.
    Bryan: most commercial tool would be ok, less sure for open-source, but SERNA Has support (http://www.syntext.com/products/serna/docbook-xml-format-support/)
    See also: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookPublishingTools
    Don't know exactly the sub-set allowed
    Asgeir: good move, presentation guide was done in DocBook. But having the source under version control is important too.
    Bryan: yes
    
    
    
    === 4/ XLIFF Inline text SC report
    
    Yves: going through the requirements, will try to work by email a bit too.
    Arle: working on getting OSCAR feedback
    
    
    
    === OpenTM2-related question from Arle
    
    Arle: XLIFF planned as the portability layer between Joomla and OpenTM2. But some metadata "is missing" apparently.
    Christian:  From my understanding, we already now have mechanisms (extension points) in XLIFF that would allow additional meta data to be accommodated.
    David: There are plans to form a Metadata SC, so this would be useful input.
    Arle: So we'll try to work through the TC for this.
    David: maybe related to DITA as well.
    Doug: for our CMS we use the XLIFF tool element (with extended namespace).
    Arle: I think they talk about a more general set of metadata that can be shared.
    Bryan: working with Drupal as well, maybe some common part too.
    
    
    
    === 7/ XLIFF 2.0
    
    Bryan: Second meeting in August is the DEADLINE for Features
    Maybe we can extend one week since we have missed one meeting.
    David: maybe after the symposium would be better.
    Bryan: Possibly. I'll go back to decision to see if we need formal change.
    
    ACTION ITEM: Bryan to check on deadline.
    
    Need to consolidate the feature set:
    ACTION ITEM: All to look at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0 and see if any need to be moved to http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking
    
    Then we can go through the items and decide.
    If we have few v2 features we may want to go there instead of working on 1.2 errata.
    
    Dimitra: if I have some changes to propose (rather than feature) how should I enter that?
    Bryan: ok to put this in the feature tracking page
    
    
    - meeting adjourned
    
    
    
    
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  • 4.  [xliff] TC Teleconference - Summary (corrected)

    Posted 07-20-2010 19:01
    Two corrections in section 3.3:
    
    Replacing "Authoring in DocBook will allow more controlled output."
    By "Authoring in DocBook with its OASIS approved toolkits will allow more controlled output."
    
    Replacing "DITA has also a toolkit, but not quite ready."
    By "DITA has also a toolkit for publishing OASIS specifications, but not quite ready."
    
    =========
    
    XLIFF TC Teleconference - Summary
    Date:  Tuesday, 20 July 2010
    Time:  11:00am - 12:00pm ET
    
    
    === 1/ Roll call
    
    Present: Asgeir, Bryan, Yves, Christian, Lucia, Dimitra, David, Doug, Arle
    Regrets: Rodolfo
    
     
    === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 1 June 2010 meeting minutes:
    (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201006/msg00000.html)
    
    Asgeir moves to approve minutes.
    Bryan seconds.
    No objections
    
    Bryan: Discussion for conformance moved after v2 discussion. Is it ok?
    David: May be needed during the work on features to insure we can enforce the features.
    Bryan: OK for concurrent work then.
    
    
    
    === 3.1. Updates on the 1st International XLIFF Symposium
    
    Dimitra: program finalized. Maybe 15mn to discuss it?
    David: second.
    Asgeir, Christian, Bryan, Yves: sounds fine.
    
    David presents the program...
    One day, very full, dominant topic: "minimal & modular"
    Panels and presentation, several tracks too.
    
    ACTION ITEM: Bryan to look at the possibility to do an OASIS Webinar for one of the panel.
    
    
    
    === 3.2. Possible to get more work done by scheduling face-to-face meetings
    (Lucia created a poll http://www.doodle.com/ra63ue77nevp976a )
    
    ACTION ITEM: All to visit http://www.doodle.com/ra63ue77nevp976a and see where you would be possibly present.
    For more dates: ask Lucia to modify the poll.
    
    
    
    === 3.3 Move our spec into Docbook (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201007/msg00009.html)?
    
    Authoring in DocBook [with its OASIS approved toolkits] will allow more controlled output.
    DITA has also a toolkit [for publishing OASIS specifications], but not quite ready.
    Pros: Working from DocBook would ensure proper OASIS-official output.
    Cons: Editors need DocBook DTD. Rodolfo is ok with that.
    
    
    Bryan: propose to adopt this approach.
    Yves: think it's a good idea
    Doug: same but wonder about the availability of editing tools.
    Bryan: most commercial tool would be ok, less sure for open-source, but SERNA Has support (http://www.syntext.com/products/serna/docbook-xml-format-support/)
    See also: http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookPublishingTools
    Don't know exactly the sub-set allowed
    Asgeir: good move, presentation guide was done in DocBook. But having the source under version control is important too.
    Bryan: yes
    
    
    
    === 4/ XLIFF Inline text SC report
    
    Yves: going through the requirements, will try to work by email a bit too.
    Arle: working on getting OSCAR feedback
    
    
    
    === OpenTM2-related question from Arle
    
    Arle: XLIFF planned as the portability layer between Joomla and OpenTM2. But some metadata "is missing" apparently.
    Christian:  From my understanding, we already now have mechanisms (extension points) in XLIFF that would allow additional meta data to be accommodated.
    David: There are plans to form a Metadata SC, so this would be useful input.
    Arle: So we'll try to work through the TC for this.
    David: maybe related to DITA as well.
    Doug: for our CMS we use the XLIFF tool element (with extended namespace).
    Arle: I think they talk about a more general set of metadata that can be shared.
    Bryan: working with Drupal as well, maybe some common part too.
    
    
    
    === 7/ XLIFF 2.0
    
    Bryan: Second meeting in August is the DEADLINE for Features
    Maybe we can extend one week since we have missed one meeting.
    David: maybe after the symposium would be better.
    Bryan: Possibly. I'll go back to decision to see if we need formal change.
    
    ACTION ITEM: Bryan to check on deadline.
    
    Need to consolidate the feature set:
    ACTION ITEM: All to look at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0 and see if any need to be moved to http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking
    
    Then we can go through the items and decide.
    If we have few v2 features we may want to go there instead of working on 1.2 errata.
    
    Dimitra: if I have some changes to propose (rather than feature) how should I enter that?
    Bryan: ok to put this in the feature tracking page
    
    
    - meeting adjourned
    
    
    
    
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