Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 20 November 2019 01:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2019-11-20T01:00:00 Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
Participation
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Andrea Caccia
Ken Holman
Regrets:
Levine Naidoo
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Standing items
Additions to events calendar -
http://ubl.xml.org/events Nothing
Review of Pacific call minutes
Pacific call cancelled last week
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201911/msg00011.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
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Oriol Bausa Peris
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT
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Ger Clancy
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Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie platform e-factureren
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
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Yves Jordan
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Ole Madsen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
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Natalie Muric
UBL 2.3
ISO submission
Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html ISO requirements being discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 UBL 2.3 First Public Review Comment Resolution
Proposal for final comment resolutions uploaded here:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=66254&wg_abbrev=ubl Members should review the comment resolutions so that we can respond formally to commenters.
UBL 2.3 Second Public Review
Preparation of PRD02:
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Implement resolutions of PRD01 comments
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Review prose to comply with ISO requirements as discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 -
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-247 -
Update conformance clause to include conformance with additional Extension constraints:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/projects/UBL/issues/UBL-248 -
Update section 3.5.2 with Extension elements present at every ABIE:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-249 -
XPath definition in Document Reference may need review. Discussion here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-263 -
Cardinalities of LegalDocumentReference and TechnicalDocumentReference:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-253 -
Requirements for storage facilities:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-269 Guidance regarding the use of the OASIS UBL logo
Draft committee note:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=66208 (see also:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201911/msg00009.html ).
Logotype being discussed here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201911/msg00014.html Members are encouraged to provide feedback and suggest alternatives.
UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Nothing
UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Nothing
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
Ken is exploring the use of digital signatures in the JSON UBL representation. JWS (used for example in the JWT) is a possibility.
ETSI is working on a JAdES digital signature specification for JSON. Andrea to share more information.
A ticket has been created to follow this subject:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-270 TC Liaisons
ISO TC 204/WG7
Agreed at the September 11, 2019 TC conference call to seek a formal liaison with ISO TC 204/WG7 specifically for collaborating on the new ISO 24533 specification.
We need to appoint a liaison, preferably someone who is a member of both groups. See also:
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons CEN TC 434
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
Andrea will keep the UBL TC informed of any progress.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1 is open to establish a formal liaison. Ken and Andrea participated in the last WG 1 meeting. Andrea will post a progress report.
JIRA tickets
Available filters:
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Discuss:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172 -
UBL 2.x:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 -
BDNDR:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472 -
All UBL:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 -
TCAdmin:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.
Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.
JIRA status and resolution value definitions
Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.
Our current definitions are:
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NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
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in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
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the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
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please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
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OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
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keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
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please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test
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RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released
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RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
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RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
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RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution
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RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution
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APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
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DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
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please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes
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See also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html Subcommittee conference calls
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Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Thursday every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility)
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Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at 13:30UTC (will be using Natalie's WebEx facility)
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Pre-award cancelled next week. Possibly setting up a meeting at a different time (see Pre-award SC above).
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
Face-to-face
Face-to-face meeting(s) in 2020?
Possibility in Napa Valley in May 2020.
Possibility in Minneapolis.
Possibly back-to-back with Exchange Summit Americas and IBM Think! Conferences (both held same week).
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2019-11-20
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-27
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-12-04
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-12-11
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-12-18
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-12-25
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Calls cancelled
Outline of teleconference times for 2019
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201812/msg00000.html (Note the date for the Australia time change is indicated incorrectly)
TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
Other business
None