OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

  • 1.  Re: [office] Re: [office-comment] Re: mycomments on the numbering spec proposal discussed by David F.andFlorian R.

    Posted 01-22-2007 14:30
    Wow --- thats interresting.
    
    Let's assume the lists will restart, then I would expect:
    1.
    1.A.
    A.i.
    i.a.
    
    since:
    LS1=< {"1"/1}, {"1"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    LS2=< {"1"/1}, {"A"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    LS3=< {"A"/1}, {"i"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    LS4=< {"i"/1}, {"a"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    
    However I woudn't expect the lists to restart --- can you point me to the relevant ODF1.1 spec line? I would expect:
    1. 
    2.A.
    C.ii.
    iv.c.
    
    --or--
    
    1.
    2.A.
    3.ii.
    4.c.
    
    However I would  ~never~ expect:
    1.
    1.1.
    A.A.
    i.i.
    
    /me is quite confused. 
    
    ~Florian
    
    >>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems 


  • 2.  Re: [office] Re: [office-comment] Re: my comments on the numberingspec proposal discussed by David F. andFlorian R.

    Posted 01-22-2007 14:52
    Hi,
    
    Florian Reuter wrote:
    > Wow --- thats interresting.
    > 
    > Let's assume the lists will restart, then I would expect:
    > 1.
    > 1.A.
    > A.i.
    > i.a.
    
    I agree. That's what I would expect, too. I believe Oliver just
    stepped into the wrong row.
    > 
    > since:
    > LS1=< {"1"/1}, {"1"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > LS2=< {"1"/1}, {"A"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > LS3=< {"A"/1}, {"i"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > LS4=< {"i"/1}, {"a"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > 
    > However I woudn't expect the lists to restart --- can you point me to the relevant ODF1.1 spec line? I would expect:
    
    
    It's section 4.3.1.2 Continue Numbering
    
    "By default, the first list item in a list starts with the number 
    specified in the list style. The continue numbering attribute can be 
    used to continue the numbering from the preceding list."
    
    together with 14.10.4.4 Start Value
    
    
    
    The first sentence of 4.3 Lists further says:
    
    "The OpenDocument format supports list structures, similar to those 
    found in [HTML4]."
    
    List restart in HTML, too.
    
    Michael
    
    
    > 1. 
    > 2.A.
    > C.ii.
    > iv.c.
    > 
    > --or--
    > 
    > 1.
    > 2.A.
    > 3.ii.
    > 4.c.
    > 
    > However I would  ~never~ expect:
    > 1.
    > 1.1.
    > A.A.
    > i.i.
    > 
    > /me is quite confused. 
    > 
    > ~Florian
    > 
    >>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann - Software Engineer - Sun Microsystems 


  • 3.  Re: [office] Re: [office-comment] Re: my comments on the numberingspec proposal discussed by David F. andFlorian R.

    Posted 01-22-2007 14:58
    Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg wrote:
    > Hi,
    > 
    > Florian Reuter wrote:
    >> Wow --- thats interresting.
    >>
    >> Let's assume the lists will restart, then I would expect:
    >> 1.
    >> 1.A.
    >> A.i.
    >> i.a.
    > 
    > I agree. That's what I would expect, too. I believe Oliver just
    > stepped into the wrong row.
    
    upps.
    
    Sorry for the confusion.
    
    Regards, Oliver.
    
    
    


  • 4.  Re: [office] Re: [office-comment] Re: my =?utf-8?q?comments=09on=09the=09numbering_spec_proposal_discussed_by?==?utf-8?q?_David_F=2E?= =?utf-8?q?_andFlorian=09R=2E?=

    Posted 01-22-2007 14:58
    On Monday 22 January 2007 15:29, Florian Reuter wrote:
    > Wow --- thats interresting.
    > 
    > Let's assume the lists will restart, then I would expect:
    > 1.
    > 1.A.
    > A.i.
    > i.a.
    > 
    > since:
    > LS1=< {"1"/1}, {"1"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > LS2=< {"1"/1}, {"A"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > LS3=< {"A"/1}, {"i"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    > LS4=< {"i"/1}, {"a"/2}, {"1"/3}, {"1"/4}, … >
    
    I agree. But this is exactly why I hate the fact that list styles define all 10 levels in one style. It just makes no sense.
    
    In order to get
     1.
     2.A.
     3.ii.
     4.c.
    I would like to be able to define
     LS1=< {"1"/1} at depth 1 >
     LS2=< {"A"/2} at depth 2 >
     LS3=< {"i"/2} at depth 2 >
     LS4=< {"a"/2} at depth 2 >
    This is what KOffice does: a list level defines one level, not 10.
    Then the number of the parent paragraph that appears due to display-levels=2 always has
    the same formatting as the one that was actually used for that paragraph. Referring
    to a paragraph called "1." as "A." makes no sense!
    
    Of course you can get the above result by making sure all list levels start with "1"/1 but that's just
    duplication of information.
    
    -- 
    David Faure, faure@kde.org, sponsored by Trolltech to work on KDE,
    Konqueror (http://www.konqueror.org), and KOffice (http://www.koffice.org).