OpenDocument - Adv Document Collab SC

  • 1.  Proposed Roadmap for ADC SC work

    Posted 02-03-2011 17:40
    In my email 7 Dec 2010 I said that I would draw up a suggested 'roadmap' for our development of our change tracking standard. Now that a schedule for ODF-Next has been published, it is a good time for us to plan how best to fit into this. I have tried to take into account the various discussions we have been having by email. I have put it on the wiki (1). Any comments welcome. You will see that if we keep to the proposed schedule we can submit to CSD01. This seems possible and better than aiming for CSD02 which, if we miss that, would make CSD03 our last chance. I think it is also best to get this in as early as possible to give time for refinement based on user feedback. (1) http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RoadMap -- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Robin La Fontaine, Director, DeltaXML Ltd "Change control for XML" T: +44 1684 592 144 E: robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com http://www.deltaxml.com Registered in England 02528681 Reg. Office: Monsell House, WR8 0QN, UK


  • 2.  Re: [office-collab] Proposed Roadmap for ADC SC work

    Posted 03-03-2011 11:58
    By way of update to this: - no comments on the roadmap so I am taking silence as consent! - Doug has said Microsoft are preparing a proposal for mid-March (thanks for the update, Doug) - there is no other proposal in preparation as far as I am aware We now have around 64 use cases and no suggestions for anything further here. Any proposal needs to demonstrate how these are handled. If you have any more, now is the time to add them. Regards, Robin Robin LaFontaine wrote: > In my email 7 Dec 2010 I said that I would draw up a suggested > 'roadmap' for our development of our change tracking standard. Now > that a schedule for ODF-Next has been published, it is a good time for > us to plan how best to fit into this. I have tried to take into > account the various discussions we have been having by email. > > I have put it on the wiki (1). Any comments welcome. You will see that > if we keep to the proposed schedule we can submit to CSD01. This seems > possible and better than aiming for CSD02 which, if we miss that, > would make CSD03 our last chance. I think it is also best to get this > in as early as possible to give time for refinement based on user > feedback. > > (1) http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RoadMap > -- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Robin La Fontaine, Director, DeltaXML Ltd "Change control for XML" T: +44 1684 592 144 E: robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com http://www.deltaxml.com Registered in England 02528681 Reg. Office: Monsell House, WR8 0QN, UK


  • 3.  Re: [office-collab] Proposed Roadmap for ADC SC work

    Posted 03-03-2011 17:57
    I added two more use cases, related to interaction of change tracking with vendor-defined ODF extensions. For example, I believe KOffice has an extension that allows display of musical notation in a document. 1) How do we change track the addition of this extension to a document? 2) How do we change track modifications made to the underlying data of the extension, e.g., the musical notes? Obviously we can only provide general guidance for question #2, but ideally it should be possible for a second ODF editor, that knows nothing about the KOffice extension, to at least know that the document has been changed, allow user to accept/reject the change, etc. In other words, some ability to handle opaque changes from extensions. Ideally. http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ChangeTrackingUseCases Regards, -Rob Robin LaFontaine <robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com> wrote on 03/03/2011 06:57:28 AM: > > Re: [office-collab] Proposed Roadmap for ADC SC work > > By way of update to this: > > - no comments on the roadmap so I am taking silence as consent! > - Doug has said Microsoft are preparing a proposal for mid-March (thanks > for the update, Doug) > - there is no other proposal in preparation as far as I am aware > > We now have around 64 use cases and no suggestions for anything further > here. Any proposal needs to demonstrate how these are handled. If you > have any more, now is the time to add them. > > Regards, > Robin > > Robin LaFontaine wrote: > > In my email 7 Dec 2010 I said that I would draw up a suggested > > 'roadmap' for our development of our change tracking standard. Now > > that a schedule for ODF-Next has been published, it is a good time for > > us to plan how best to fit into this. I have tried to take into > > account the various discussions we have been having by email. > > > > I have put it on the wiki (1). Any comments welcome. You will see that > > if we keep to the proposed schedule we can submit to CSD01. This seems > > possible and better than aiming for CSD02 which, if we miss that, > > would make CSD03 our last chance. I think it is also best to get this > > in as early as possible to give time for refinement based on user > > feedback. > > > > (1) http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RoadMap > > > > > -- > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Robin La Fontaine, Director, DeltaXML Ltd "Change control for XML" > T: +44 1684 592 144 E: robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com > http://www.deltaxml.com > Registered in England 02528681 Reg. Office: Monsell House, WR8 0QN, UK > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >


  • 4.  Re: [office-collab] Proposed Roadmap for ADC SC work

    Posted 03-04-2011 18:10
    Thanks for adding these suggestions - could I ask you (or perhaps someone in KOffice will volunteer) to provide small before and after ODT documents so that we can include it in the samples. Please post these to the documents part of the subcommittee section: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/documents.php Thanks, Robin robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote: OF8960A9C1.92846BF7-ON85257848.0062016C-85257848.006292BB@lotus.com type= cite > I added two more use cases, related to interaction of change tracking with vendor-defined ODF extensions. For example, I believe KOffice has an extension that allows display of musical notation in a document. 1) How do we change track the addition of this extension to a document? 2) How do we change track modifications made to the underlying data of the extension, e.g., the musical notes? Obviously we can only provide general guidance for question #2, but ideally it should be possible for a second ODF editor, that knows nothing about the KOffice extension, to at least know that the document has been changed, allow user to accept/reject the change, etc. In other words, some ability to handle opaque changes from extensions. Ideally. http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/ChangeTrackingUseCases Regards, -Rob Robin LaFontaine <robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com> wrote on 03/03/2011 06:57:28 AM: Re: [office-collab] Proposed Roadmap for ADC SC work By way of update to this: - no comments on the roadmap so I am taking silence as consent! - Doug has said Microsoft are preparing a proposal for mid-March (thanks for the update, Doug) - there is no other proposal in preparation as far as I am aware We now have around 64 use cases and no suggestions for anything further here. Any proposal needs to demonstrate how these are handled. If you have any more, now is the time to add them. Regards, Robin Robin LaFontaine wrote: In my email 7 Dec 2010 I said that I would draw up a suggested 'roadmap' for our development of our change tracking standard. Now that a schedule for ODF-Next has been published, it is a good time for us to plan how best to fit into this. I have tried to take into account the various discussions we have been having by email. I have put it on the wiki (1). Any comments welcome. You will see that if we keep to the proposed schedule we can submit to CSD01. This seems possible and better than aiming for CSD02 which, if we miss that, would make CSD03 our last chance. I think it is also best to get this in as early as possible to give time for refinement based on user feedback. (1) http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/RoadMap -- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Robin La Fontaine, Director, DeltaXML Ltd Change control for XML T: +44 1684 592 144 E: robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com http://www.deltaxml.com Registered in England 02528681 Reg. Office: Monsell House, WR8 0QN, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php -- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Robin La Fontaine, Director, DeltaXML Ltd Change control for XML T: +44 1684 592 144 E: robin.lafontaine@deltaxml.com http://www.deltaxml.com Registered in England 02528681 Reg. Office: Monsell House, WR8 0QN, UK