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RE: [emergency] Talking Point re CAP and CEA "Public Alert"

  • 1.  RE: [emergency] Talking Point re CAP and CEA "Public Alert"

    Posted 04-10-2004 21:18
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    Subject: RE: [emergency] Talking Point re CAP and CEA "Public Alert"


    Walid -
    
    Of course context is important.  That's why I'm suggesting we not try 
    to apply technical definitions beyond their appropriate context.  We 
    need to remember that the rest of the world uses many words 
    differently.
    
    As a practical matter I believe the general public understands 
    "compatible" to mean "won't interfere."  And most direct stakeholders 
    (emergency managers, product marketers, elected officials) really 
    take "compatible" to mean "won't make my existing product, system or 
    program less valuable, or make my prior decisions look bad."  We can 
    use  more rigorous definitions within our technical community, but 
    most folks have mundane concerns.  And if they're interested in the 
    technical details, those are all available.
    
    Anyway "compatible" * isn't the same thing as "identical."  The 
    content of SAME (including CEA's "extended SAME") format messages can 
    be expressed fully and directly in the CAP format... even though, 
    because SAME is an older and less flexible standard, not everything 
    that can be expressed in a CAP message can be communicated in SAME. 
    That's one way in which CAP represents progress.
    
    As for "interoperability"... CAP is a content standard, not a system 
    architecture.  Interoperability depends on how and where CAP is 
    used.... just like interoperability of voice radios depends on a 
    whole set of factors... frequency, modulation scheme, network 
    architecture, content format, management procedure and so on.
    
    For example, voice radios can operate on different frequencies and 
    still interoperate if the network architecture (a repeater or a 
    cross-channel patch) links them.  So are they "reeeeeeeeally" 
    interoperable?  Below the functional level the question rapidly loses 
    meaning, especially for end-users whose only goal is getting messages 
    from A to B.
    
    Anyway, this isn't really a TC issue, it's more of a PR and/or 
    marketing concern... unless the TC proposes to go into the 
    compatibility certification business, which I think we'd decided not 
    to do.  I was just offering a personal informational suggestion in 
    case anyone got blindsided by this issue.  Nothing normative or 
    mandatory about it.
    
    - Art
    
    
    
    
    At 11:13 AM -0400 4/10/04, Walid Ramadan wrote:
    >Art, I beleive the context is actually extremely important. It looks 
    >like "compatible" is being used to imply that CAP can "interoperate" 
    >with those other systems, but not "reeeeeeeeally" interoperate with 
    >them.  So which way is it? Does it or does it not? I believe the 
    >introduction of terms such as "co-exist", "constructive", and 
    >"relatively" to define "compatible" is only making the definition of 
    >"compatible" more elusive.  And given that the folks you listed are 
    >not tech-savvy, how do we ensure that their definition of 
    >"compatible" is, to use your term, "compatible" with ours? Could it 
    >be that in their minds, compatible means fully interoperable?
    >
    >Walid
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