Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 11 December 2019 15:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2019-12-11T15:00:00 Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
Participation
Todd Albers
Oriol Bausa Peris
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Kees Duvekot
Philip Helger
Yves Jordan
Natalie Muric
Matt Vickers
Pacific call:
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Ken Holman
Levine Naidoo
Regrets:
Andrea Caccia
Matt Vickers
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Standing items
Additions to events calendar -
http://ubl.xml.org/events Nothing
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201912/msg00008.html Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201912/msg00004.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
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Oriol Bausa Peris
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT
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Ger Clancy
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR
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Yves Jordan
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Natalie Muric
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Levine Naidoo
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Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML
UBL 2.3
ISO submission
Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html ISO requirements being discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 UBL 2.3 Second Public Review
Preparation of PRD02:
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Implement resolutions of PRD01 comments
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Review prose to comply with ISO requirements as discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 -
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-247 -
Update conformance clause to include conformance with additional Extension constraints:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/projects/UBL/issues/UBL-248 -
Update section 3.5.2 with Extension elements present at every ABIE:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-249 -
XPath definition in Document Reference may need review. Discussion here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-263 o
The definition may be ambiguous when the DocumentReference is within another referenced document ASBIE. Kenneth to propose a revised definition
and post to the ticket.
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Agreed to create an additional ReferencedDocumentInternalAddress as discussed in the above ticket.
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Cardinalities of LegalDocumentReference and TechnicalDocumentReference:
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Requirements for storage facilities:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-269 Timeline:
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Pre-award test schemas
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Ken and Cecile are working on the final pre-award changes
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Deadline for PRD02 input: December 15.
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Tentative target date for PRD02 release is mid-January.
Guidance regarding the use of the OASIS UBL logo
While a new UBL logo is being debated, the old UBL logo remains the current version and is the intellectual property of OASIS and can be used under the general terms and conditions of the OASIS licensing terms.
Draft committee note:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=66208 (see also:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201911/msg00009.html ).
Members are encouraged to provide feedback and suggest alternatives. Latest proposal:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201911/msg00025.html Pending feedback from OASIS.
UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Status of the publishing of the Payment Means Information 1.0 Committee Note available here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/projects/TCADMIN/issues/TCADMIN-3616 UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Nothing
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
Nothing
TC Liaisons
ISO TC 204/WG7
Agreed at the September 11, 2019 TC conference call to seek a formal liaison with ISO TC 204/WG7 specifically for collaborating on the new ISO 24533 specification.
We need to appoint a liaison, preferably someone who is a member of both groups. See also:
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons CEN TC 434
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
Andrea will keep the UBL TC informed of any progress.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1 is open to establish a formal liaison. Ken and Andrea participated in the last WG 1 meeting. Andrea will post a progress report.
JIRA tickets
Available filters:
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Discuss:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172 -
UBL 2.x:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 -
BDNDR:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472 -
All UBL:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 -
TCAdmin:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.
Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.
JIRA status and resolution value definitions
Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.
Our current definitions are:
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NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
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in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
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the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
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please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
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OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
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keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
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please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test
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RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released
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RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
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RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
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RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution
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RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution
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APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
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DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
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please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes
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See also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html Subcommittee conference calls
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Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Thursday every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility)
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Pre-award Subcommittee will on hold until after the end of PRD02, unless there is a request for a meeting.
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
Face-to-face
Face-to-face meeting(s) in 2020?
Possibility in Napa Valley in May 2020.
Possibility in Minneapolis.
Possibly back-to-back with Exchange Summit Americas and IBM Think! Conferences (both held same week).
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2019-12-18
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-12-25
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Calls cancelled
2020-01-01
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Calls cancelled
2020-01-08
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-01-15
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-01-22
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-01-29
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-02-05
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-02-12
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-02-19
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-02-26
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-03-04
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
Outline of teleconference times for 2020
See:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201912/msg00006.html Agreed that planning of meetings in 2020 will follow the same time zone changes as previous years: Pacific call follows North America and Atlantic call follow Europe.
TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
Other business
Nothing