OASIS ebXML Core (ebCore) TC

  • 1.  FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange" Framework Technical Report

    Posted 05-21-2012 15:59
    This new effort seems particularly closely aligned with the BDXR TC's work. Some members of the ebCore TC (Pim, Dale) are also involved in BDXR. In particular, some efforts are underway to see how parts of the ebXML effort (e.g. CPPA), as well as the WS-* and other standards might apply to the re-chartered BDXR work. I think there was some brief mention of this ISO and UN/CEFACT initiative at the last TC meeting, but didn't see that this formal announcement had been circulated to the OASIS TCs. Tim, Kenneth: would either of you care to say more about the genesis of this effort, and to what extent (if at all) there has yet been any communication with OASIS/BDXR, or discussion of BDXR deliverables feeding into the ODI effort? In particular, I note that the first ODI work item is the drafting of a Technical Report (TR) for completion and balloting by July 20th. Tim, any comments about the expected scope or content of the TR would also be of interest, I expect. As an OASIS member, you might like to just join the BDXR TC, Tim, or if not Kenneth or I could forward any other emails from you. Regards, Roger


  • 2.  Re: FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange" Framework Technical Report

    Posted 05-22-2012 09:49
    We have had high level talks with OASIS management before proposing this project and they understand that their members are eligible for participation and support the overall aims of the technical report. It is not just BDXR but also the IebXML, WS-* and other TCs that should be interested in participating. Many of these are listed in the project proposal. So we probably do need to target specific TCs to make them aware also and I will take this up with OASIS how they want to do this. The project was only approved on May 5th so we are still setting up some of the liaison processes. PS. I thought I was in the BDXR TC but it appears with rechartering we have to rejoin? I was not aware of this and I have just rejoined. Seems very odd as I was a founding member and approved the change! On 21/05/12 11:58 PM, Roger Bass wrote: This new effort seems particularly closely aligned with the BDXR TC's work. Some members of the ebCore TC (Pim, Dale) are also involved in BDXR. In particular, some efforts are underway to see how parts of the ebXML effort (e.g. CPPA), as well as the WS-* and other standards might apply to the re-chartered BDXR work. I think there was some brief mention of this ISO and UN/CEFACT initiative at the last TC meeting, but didn't see that this formal announcement had been circulated to the OASIS TCs. Tim, Kenneth: would either of you care to say more about the genesis of this effort, and to what extent (if at all) there has yet been any communication with OASIS/BDXR, or discussion of BDXR deliverables feeding into the ODI effort? In particular, I note that the first ODI work item is the drafting of a Technical Report (TR) for completion and balloting by July 20th. Tim, any comments about the expected scope or content of the TR would also be of interest, I expect. As an OASIS member, you might like to just join the BDXR TC, Tim, or if not Kenneth or I could forward any other emails from you. Regards, Roger
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  • 3.  Fwd: [bdxr] Re: FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange" Framework Technical Report

    Posted 05-22-2012 16:59
    FYI... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tim McGrath <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com> Date: Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:48 AM Subject: [bdxr] Re: FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange" Framework Technical Report To: Roger Bass <robass1@earthlink.net> Cc: bdxr@lists.oasis-open.org, Kenneth@alfa1lab.com, ebcore@lists.oasis-open.org We have had high level talks with OASIS management before proposing this project and they understand that their members are eligible for participation and support the overall aims of the technical report. It is not just BDXR but also the IebXML, WS-* and other TCs that should be interested in participating.  Many of these are listed in the project proposal.  So we probably do need to target specific TCs to make them aware also and I will take this up with OASIS how they want to do this. The project was only approved on May 5th so we are still setting up some of the liaison processes. PS. I thought I was in the BDXR TC but it appears with rechartering we have to rejoin?  I was not aware of this and I have just rejoined. Seems very odd as I was a founding member and approved the change! On 21/05/12 11:58 PM, Roger Bass wrote: > > This new effort seems particularly closely aligned with the BDXR TC's work. > Some members of the ebCore TC (Pim, Dale) are also involved in BDXR.  In > particular, some efforts are underway to see how parts of the ebXML effort > (e.g. CPPA), as well as the WS-* and other standards might apply to the > re-chartered BDXR work. > > I think there was some brief mention of this ISO and UN/CEFACT initiative at > the last TC meeting, but didn't see that this formal announcement had been > circulated to the OASIS TCs. > > Tim, Kenneth: would either of you care to say more about the genesis of this > effort, and to what extent (if at all) there has yet been any communication > with OASIS/BDXR, or discussion of BDXR deliverables feeding into the ODI > effort?  In particular, I note that the first ODI work item is the drafting > of a Technical Report (TR) for completion and balloting by July 20th.  Tim, > any comments about the expected scope or content of the TR would also be of > interest, I expect.  As an OASIS member, you might like to just join the > BDXR TC, Tim, or if not Kenneth or I could forward any other emails from > you. > > Regards, Roger > > >
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  • 4.  Re: [bdxr] Re: FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange"Framework Technical Report

    Posted 05-24-2012 16:02
    Tim, Roger The UN/CEFACT initiative I mentioned at our last TC meeting was a for specific "reliable business document exchange across borders". It is my understanding that this is a different project from the "Open Data Interchange" project mentioned in Tim's email, and more directly related to BDXR. But perhaps Tim can elaborate on this? Tim, yes - after the rechartering was approved, the original BDX group was closed and a new BDXR group was created. Everyone from the old TC has had to rejoin the TC. It is just a technical/administrative procedure. Best regards, Kenneth On 5/22/12 4:48 AM, "Tim McGrath" <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com> wrote: >We have had high level talks with OASIS management before proposing this >project and they understand that their members are eligible for >participation and support the overall aims of the technical report. > >It is not just BDXR but also the IebXML, WS-* and other TCs that should >be interested in participating. Many of these are listed in the project >proposal. So we probably do need to target specific TCs to make them >aware also and I will take this up with OASIS how they want to do this. >The project was only approved on May 5th so we are still setting up some >of the liaison processes. > >PS. I thought I was in the BDXR TC but it appears with rechartering we >have to rejoin? I was not aware of this and I have just rejoined. >Seems very odd as I was a founding member and approved the change! > > >On 21/05/12 11:58 PM, Roger Bass wrote: >> This new effort seems particularly closely aligned with the BDXR TC's >>work. >> Some members of the ebCore TC (Pim, Dale) are also involved in BDXR. In >> particular, some efforts are underway to see how parts of the ebXML >>effort >> (e.g. CPPA), as well as the WS-* and other standards might apply to the >> re-chartered BDXR work. >> >> I think there was some brief mention of this ISO and UN/CEFACT >>initiative at >> the last TC meeting, but didn't see that this formal announcement had >>been >> circulated to the OASIS TCs. >> >> Tim, Kenneth: would either of you care to say more about the genesis of >>this >> effort, and to what extent (if at all) there has yet been any >>communication >> with OASIS/BDXR, or discussion of BDXR deliverables feeding into the ODI >> effort? In particular, I note that the first ODI work item is the >>drafting >> of a Technical Report (TR) for completion and balloting by July 20th. >>Tim, >> any comments about the expected scope or content of the TR would also >>be of >> interest, I expect. As an OASIS member, you might like to just join the >> BDXR TC, Tim, or if not Kenneth or I could forward any other emails from >> you. >> >> Regards, Roger >> >> >>
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  • 5.  Re: [bdxr] Re: FW: [ebxml-dev] ISO and UN/CEFACT initiate "Open Data Interchange"Framework Technical Report

    Posted 05-25-2012 06:10
    Yes Kenneth you are correct.  I was talking previously about the ODIF project.  What is more immediately relevant to the BDXR community is the proposed UN/CEFACT project for Reliable business document exchange across borders .  This was discussed at the last UN/CEFACT Forum and  some ideas have been developed for how UN/CEFACT can provide a UNECE Recommendation that identifies requirements and describes best practices for the use of message handling systems (including digital signatures and strategies for party identification) in cross border scenarios. These cover technical infrastructure issues regarding the trusted electronic exchange of any type of business document.  For those familiar with the work of UN/CEFACT this is how the concepts and development of several Single Windows initiatives were supported through UNECE Recommendations. This will hopefully take more shape over the next few weeks and I will keep you posted. On 25/05/12 12:01 AM, Kenneth Bengtsson wrote: Tim, Roger The UN/CEFACT initiative I mentioned at our last TC meeting was a for specific reliable business document exchange across borders . It is my understanding that this is a different project from the Open Data Interchange project mentioned in Tim's email, and more directly related to BDXR. But perhaps Tim can elaborate on this? Tim, yes - after the rechartering was approved, the original BDX group was closed and a new BDXR group was created. Everyone from the old TC has had to rejoin the TC. It is just a technical/administrative procedure. Best regards, Kenneth On 5/22/12 4:48 AM, Tim McGrath <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com> wrote: We have had high level talks with OASIS management before proposing this project and they understand that their members are eligible for participation and support the overall aims of the technical report. It is not just BDXR but also the IebXML, WS-* and other TCs that should be interested in participating. Many of these are listed in the project proposal. So we probably do need to target specific TCs to make them aware also and I will take this up with OASIS how they want to do this. The project was only approved on May 5th so we are still setting up some of the liaison processes. PS. I thought I was in the BDXR TC but it appears with rechartering we have to rejoin? I was not aware of this and I have just rejoined. Seems very odd as I was a founding member and approved the change! On 21/05/12 11:58 PM, Roger Bass wrote: This new effort seems particularly closely aligned with the BDXR TC's work. Some members of the ebCore TC (Pim, Dale) are also involved in BDXR. In particular, some efforts are underway to see how parts of the ebXML effort (e.g. CPPA), as well as the WS-* and other standards might apply to the re-chartered BDXR work. I think there was some brief mention of this ISO and UN/CEFACT initiative at the last TC meeting, but didn't see that this formal announcement had been circulated to the OASIS TCs. Tim, Kenneth: would either of you care to say more about the genesis of this effort, and to what extent (if at all) there has yet been any communication with OASIS/BDXR, or discussion of BDXR deliverables feeding into the ODI effort? In particular, I note that the first ODI work item is the drafting of a Technical Report (TR) for completion and balloting by July 20th. Tim, any comments about the expected scope or content of the TR would also be of interest, I expect. As an OASIS member, you might like to just join the BDXR TC, Tim, or if not Kenneth or I could forward any other emails from you. Regards, Roger
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