OASIS LegalDocumentML (LegalDocML) TC

  • 1.  Support and focus of Secondary/Delegated/Supplementary Legislation

    Posted 07-11-2012 13:22
    Hi Everyone, So having met Ashok at the Open Legislative Data event in Paris over the weekend we ended up discussing the support for secondary (or as it is also referred to as Supplementary?) legislation. A small introduction... I am interested in this exact type of legislation within the domain of design and construction. As Fabio has previously described the task of authoring/amending/publishing/disseminating this legislation can be (and usually is) delegated to some party outside of the parliament. In the case of Scotland the rights/power to produce national building regulations is granted to the Scottish Parliament through the following piece of UK primary legislation [0], which in turn resulted in the Scottish Parliament delegating this task to the Directorate for the Built Environment, resulting in the production of the Scottish Technical Standards[1] (national building regs) and a whole host of supplementary (non-legally binding) guidance and regulation surrounding the building regulations and the regulatory ecosystem itself. My question relates specifically to bring to the surface the peculiarities we typically experience within delegated legislation of this type e.g. technical images embedded throughout the content, the concept of pages within the legislation, headers, footers, complex tables containing a combination of numeric and String based data, equations relating to energy performance calculations etc. This is by no means an exhaustive list of the nasties we find peppered throughout documents of this type. Such a document can be seen [2]. This particular document has quite a nice selection of nasties displaying the typical hurdles people experience when attempting to comply with such domain specific legal texts... which have been changing more recently on a bi-annual basis. So now I have two points I wish to throw out to the community 1) I'm sure that similar secondary legislation/regulations within the domains of transport, health care, environment, fisheries, etc etc is of a similar ilke... is anyone else modeling this stuff in Akoma Ntoso? Or does anyone else have experience of working with this type of legislation? 2) If so how accommodating/able have users found the Akoma Ntoso Schema and data model to be in order to accurately represent domain specific legislation of this type? I am very interested in the granularity of the embedded data, the URI naming, parameter accommodation etc etc. Ashok explained a good bit to me about the Akoma Ntoso data model and I've also seen the subschema generator and will be using it more and more to test out my usage scenario's but I would really like to hear back from more experienced users within this area to hear and learn from your resources. Thank you kindly in advance and also for ay feedback you may be able to share with me/us. All the best Lewis [0] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2003/8/contents [1] http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Built-Environment/Building/Building-standards/publications/pubtech [2] http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/217736/0121478.pdf Lewis John McGibbney BSc (Hons), ICIOB PhD Researcher Informatics in Design and Construction School of Engineering and Built Environment Glasgow Caledonian University 0141 331 8420 lewis.mcgibbney@gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html


  • 2.  Re: [legaldocml] Support and focus of Secondary/Delegated/Supplementary Legislation

    Posted 07-11-2012 15:14
    Dear Lewis, thanks a lot! your contribution is really what we need in the TC. Tomorrow we will dedicate the TC meeting to the "Bill" but for the next time I will try to markup a relevant part (not all) of your document http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/217736/0121478.pdf in Akoma Ntoso. We have experience with the Italian secondary legislation: all the Italian Official Gazette was marked up using the "sister" standard NormeInRete starting from 2005. The main problem, as you said, is to manage in a smart way tables, images, formulas etc. and to annotate them with metadata in order to permit manipulations and versioning over time. But let me make my homework on your document and I will come back to you with the outcomes of my experiment. Great! Yours, Monica Il 11/07/2012 15:21, McGibbney, Lewis John ha scritto: Hi Everyone, So having met Ashok at the Open Legislative Data event in Paris over the weekend we ended up discussing the support for secondary (or as it is also referred to as Supplementary?) legislation. A small introduction... I am interested in this exact type of legislation within the domain of design and construction. As Fabio has previously described the task of authoring/amending/publishing/disseminating this legislation can be (and usually is) delegated to some party outside of the parliament. In the case of Scotland the rights/power to produce national building regulations is granted to the Scottish Parliament through the following piece of UK primary legislation [0], which in turn resulted in the Scottish Parliament delegating this task to the Directorate for the Built Environment, resulting in the production of the Scottish Technical Standards[1] (national building regs) and a whole host of supplementary (non-legally binding) guidance and regulation surrounding the building regulations and the regulatory ecosystem itself. My question relates specifically to bring to the surface the peculiarities we typically experience within delegated legislation of this type e.g. technical images embedded throughout the content, the concept of pages within the legislation, headers, footers, complex tables containing a combination of numeric and String based data, equations relating to energy performance calculations etc. This is by no means an exhaustive list of the nasties we find peppered throughout documents of this type. Such a document can be seen [2]. This particular document has quite a nice selection of nasties displaying the typical hurdles people experience when attempting to comply with such domain specific legal texts... which have been changing more recently on a bi-annual basis. So now I have two points I wish to throw out to the community 1) I'm sure that similar secondary legislation/regulations within the domains of transport, health care, environment, fisheries, etc etc is of a similar ilke... is anyone else modeling this stuff in Akoma Ntoso? Or does anyone else have experience of working with this type of legislation? 2) If so how accommodating/able have users found the Akoma Ntoso Schema and data model to be in order to accurately represent domain specific legislation of this type? I am very interested in the granularity of the embedded data, the URI naming, parameter accommodation etc etc. Ashok explained a good bit to me about the Akoma Ntoso data model and I've also seen the subschema generator and will be using it more and more to test out my usage scenario's but I would really like to hear back from more experienced users within this area to hear and learn from your resources. Thank you kindly in advance and also for ay feedback you may be able to share with me/us. All the best Lewis [0] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2003/8/contents [1] http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Built-Environment/Building/Building-standards/publications/pubtech [2] http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/217736/0121478.pdf Lewis John McGibbney BSc (Hons), ICIOB PhD Researcher Informatics in Design and Construction School of Engineering and Built Environment Glasgow Caledonian University 0141 331 8420 lewis.mcgibbney@gcu.ac.uk Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -- =================================== Associate professor of Legal Informatics School of Law Alma Mater Studiorum Università di Bologna C.I.R.S.F.I.D. http://www.cirsfid.unibo.it/ Palazzo Dal Monte Gaudenzi - Via Galliera, 3 I - 40121 BOLOGNA (ITALY) Tel +39 051 277217 Fax +39 051 260782 E-mail monica.palmirani@unibo.it ==================================== LA RICERCA C’È E SI VEDE: 5 per mille all'Università di Bologna - C.F.: 80007010376 http://www.unibo.it/5permille Questa informativa è inserita in automatico dal sistema al fine esclusivo della realizzazione dei fini istituzionali dell’ente.


  • 3.  Re: [legaldocml] Support and focus of Secondary/Delegated/Supplementary Legislation

    Posted 07-13-2012 12:16
    Sorry if this was addressed I'm yesterday's call: in the U.S. At the Federal level "secondary legislation" is generally referred to as "regulation" or "implementing regulation". It is governed by its own statutory framework, the Administrative Procedures Act (Title 5 of the US Code) and involves daily print and on line publication (The Federal Register), a published system of agency codifications (The Code of Federal Regulations ("CFR")) and a huge body of jurisprudence. And this does not even begin to address "federal scheme" implementing legislation at the state level in 51 jurisdictions. And that's just "us" here in the colonies. Michael M.A.A. Sent from handheld