Yes -- Please -- Thank you very much Peter. Let's try this.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Reynolds [mailto:preynolds@idiominc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:14 AM
To: Reinhard.Schaler; Schnabel, Bryan S
Cc: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Teleconference added
Bryan, all,
Do you want to use this conference call facility.
Raindance
Conference ID: 9915379
Dial-In number: 8887428686
International Dial-In: 3039282600
Raindance: 8887428686/ intl 3039282600 / Conference ID: 9915379
From UK: 0800 404 9463
From US: 888 742 8686
From Intl: + 1 303 928 2600
United Kingdom- 08004049463
I will have to leave at 5 PM/ 12 noon ET so it will have to end then
Peter.
-----Original Message-----
From: Reinhard.Schaler [mailto:Reinhard.Schaler@ul.ie]
Sent: 20 February 2007 16:11
To: bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com
Cc: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Teleconference added
I have just been told that "this meeting is now over. Thank you for
calling"
and the connection was terminated.
Reinhard
-----Original Message-----
From: Reinhard.Schaler [mailto:Reinhard.Schaler@ul.ie]
Sent: 20 February 2007 16:07
To: 'bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com'
Cc: 'xliff@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: RE: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Teleconference added
Could it be that I am in the meeting on my own or that I have dialled
the
wrong number (see the UK number below)?
Reinhard
-----Original Message-----
From: bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com
[mailto:bryan.s.schnabel@exgate.tek.com]
Sent: 16 February 2007 23:25
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
Subject: [xliff] Groups - XLIFF TC Teleconference added
XLIFF TC Teleconference has been added by Bryan Schnabel*
Date: Tuesday, 20 February 2007
Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET
Event Description:
Standing monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference
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1. Call one of the MeetingPlace phone numbers:
From the AMER region dial: * 1-888-967-2253 * +1-650-607-2253
From the APAC region dial: * +61 2 8817 6100
From the EMEA region dial: * +44 118 924 9000
2. Enter the Meeting ID (805534) followed by the # key
3. If the organizer has not started the meeting you will be:
A. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key
B. Placed in the waiting room on music hold until the organizer starts
the
meeting.
If the organizer has started the meeting you will be:
A. Asked to enter the Meeting Password (030543)
B. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key
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Agenda:
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1/ roll call
2/ Approve Previous meeting minutes
Accept, reject, or amend.
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200701/msg00005.html
3/ Celebrity OASIS Guest, Carol Geyer: XML.org community site for XLIFF.
A. From last month's notes "Magnus suggested that it would be a good
idea
to have people taking responsibility for some of these. We would like to
use
a WIKI to work on this."
B. Refer to Carol's suggestion, posted here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200702/msg00001.html .
4/ XLIFF 1.2 Specification status and timeline for approval as a
standard
A. [completed] Sunday, January 21 - Public Review ended
B. [completed] Tuesday, January 23 TC Roll call vote: Approved
Request
for initiation of a Committee Spec Ballot
C. [completed] Friday, February 2 TC Ballot passed: Approve XLIFF
v1.2 as
a Committee Specification
(http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=1207)
[next steps before moving to item D.]
i. Rename, re-title, repost XLIFF 1.2 Specification and profiles to
reflect the Committee Specification status (Rodolfo)
ii. Update whitepaper (Rodolfo will do this; Tony located the latest
version here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/document.php?document
_id=
3111)
iii. Update FAQ (Tony located latest version here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200309/msg00011.html; last
author
is unknown; Doug will help author the FAQ)
iv. "Certification by at least three OASIS member organizations that
they are successfully using the specification;"
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#3.4)
The following OASIS members were identified and sent requests:
- Fredrik Corneliusson, Lionbridge
- Christian Lieske, SAP AG
- Matthew Lovatt, Oracle Corporation
- Magnus Martikainen, SDL International (Magnus confirmed that the
affidavit is on its way in a couple weeks)
- Peter Reynolds, Idiom Technologies, Inc
- Reinhard Schaler, Localisation Research Centre
(thanks to each member for attempting to obtain certification!)
v. Wednesday, March 14 (assuming i thru iv are complete) Bryan (and
Tony) submit a TC (via email) ballot for TC approval to submit the XLIFF
1.2
Committee Specification to the membership of OASIS for consideration as
an
OASIS Standard
[note: I pushed each of the following dates out to reflect a more
realistic
timeframe for completing 1 thru iv, above]
D. Wednesday, March 21 (Assuming TC approves the ballot [7 days])
Bryan
(and Tony) request TC OASIS Administrator to submit the XLIFF 1.2
Committee
Specification to the membership of OASIS for consideration as an OASIS
Standard
E. Thursday, April 1 (assuming all conditions have been met) TC OASIS
Administrator submits the XLIFF 1.2 Committee Specification to the
membership of OASIS for consideration as an OASIS Standard
F. Thursday, April 15 OASIS members have until the end of the month
to
vote (1st 14 days are reserved for OASIS members familiarizing
themselves
with the spec)
G. Monday, May 2 If at least 15% of OASIS voting membership has voted
to
approve, and no negative votes, XLIFF 1.2 becomes an OASIS Standard.
What
if it fails?
5/ XLIFF 2.0 - Life after approval of XLIFF 1.2
- Below we have three lists: A. things we want to do, B. things we
haven't decided upon yet, and C. things we rule out for 2.0.
- Let's look at each item in B. to see if we can move it into A. or
C.
(or if we're not sure, leave it in B.)
- Assign a TC member to each approved 2.0 item
A. Items the TC has identified as likely next pursuits for XLIFF 2.0
i Reference implementations or toolkit(s) similar to DITA
(Rodolfo)
ii XLIFF validator tool to be included in a toolkit
(Rodolfo)
v XLIFF Round Trip tool could be modified to support:
(DITA/ITS -> XLIFF -> Translated DITA model)
(Bryan - it looks like I can change the xliffRoundTrip Tool
license
from GPL to
Apache {according to an inquiry I made to
licensing@fsf.org, the GPL license expert debunked our
misconception that "Once something has a GPL license
it is
impossible to get out of it"})
B. Items the TC has not yet ruled out
iii Submitting to ISO once XLIFF becomes an OASIS standard
iv Additional Representation Guides (DITA,.NET / Win32, Docbook)
vi Subsetting / restricting XSD as proposed by Christian
vii Version control Metadata - need to track revision information
viii Ability to store Multilingual Content.
ix Create a bare-bones XLIFF core, then provide extension modules
that
support additional features.
x "Simplify, Extend and Clarify"
(Core XLIFF functionality would be in primary XLIFF namespace; would be
very
simple to implement.)
(Extensions would provide support for more complicated features like,
Segmentation, Pre-Translation, Generic Inline Markup, etc.)
xi Schema Catalogues; host a namespace Catalogues
for XLIFF 3rd party custom / extension namespaces.
xii More work on inline-elements:
(Separate inline elements from other elements? Maybe as an extension?
Stronger rules for when to use each inline tag?)
xiii Define a multi-lingual "Localisation Kit" format, which may
include:
(XLIFF content + original source material+ all target language files+
skeleton files + reference files + some sort of manifest document
describing/defining the payload.
xiv Using XLIFF as a primary content authoring container.
(Author stores contend directly to XLIFF instead of another proprietary
format.)
xv Terminology Markup
(Has been suggested by Kara Warburton of IBM some time ago to support
terminology markup such as translate (yes/no), subject-categorization,
type,
etc.)
C. Items the TC has ruled out as likely features for XLIFF 2.0
6/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups:
A. W3C i18n
B. Oscar
C. Trans-WS
D. LRC
E: OASIS DITA Translation Subcommittee
7/ Any Other Business
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Minutes:
View event details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/event.php?event_id=14
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