Greetings!
The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2026-04-13
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1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights
2. Motion (simple majority):
Approve ODF TC Minutes for March 30, 2026
https://groups.oasis-open.org/higherlogic/ws/public/document?document_id=73268&wg_id=4bf06d41-79ad-4c58-9e8e-018dc7d05da83. Action Items (from prior meetings)
A. Patrick to email Rich Proposal_2026-03-25.odt (complete)
B. Patrick (spreadsheet on INT conversion) - ongoing (question)
C. Patrick (spreadsheet - semantics of FIELD) - ongoing
D. Regina to prepare new spreadsheet for addition comments by Arne
(complete)
4. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda
5.
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4201 (continued)
Regina has marked several issues as editorial and suggest the TC
can proceed without further comments from her
6. Regina sent the following notes/suggestions on the INFO function:
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Arne's comments contain several remarks about the INFO function. I
think, we need to alter the INFO function. The INFO function has several
keywords for its parameter Category. They are marked as "Evaluators
shall support at least the following categories:".
The keywords are: directory, memavail, memused, numfile, osversion,
origin, recalc, release, system, totmem.
OOXML has the same keywords (18.17.7.168, ISO/IEC 29500-1:2016), but
even Excel do not support all of them, see [MS-OI29500].
I suggest to change "shall" to "should". And I suggest to recommend,
that application should document what they result, to recieve better
compatibility. My suggestion for the TC is, to look at existing
applications, which keywords they actually support and what the
applications actually return. Here a start:
* PlanMaker does not support the INFO function at all.
* Apache OpenOffice
** osversion: returns always "Windows (32-bit) NT 5.01" for
compatibility reasons
** numfile: returns always 1 for compatibility reasons
** recalc: returns localized term of either "Manual" or "Automatic"
according current formula recalutation mode.
** release: returns a product identifier like "300m25(Build:9876)" or
"4116m3(Build:9816)"
** system: returns "WNT", "LINUX" or "SOLARIS" according its help. I
cannot test other operating systems than Window 11.
** other keywords are not supported and result in an error message
Err:502, which meams "invalid argument"
* LibreOffice 26.2.2.2 (X86_64)
** osversion: returns always "Windows (32-bit) NT 5.01" for
compatibility reasons
** recalc: returns localized term (depending on UI language) of either
"Manual" or "Automatic" according current formula recalutation mode
** release: returns the BuildID, e.g.
1f77d10d6938fd34972958f64b2bcfa54f8b1ba5
** system: returns ANDROID, DRAGONFLY, EMSCRIPTEN, FREEBSD, OPENBSD,
NETBSD, HAIKU, iOS, LINUX, MACOSX, SOLARIS, WNT according its help
** other keywords are not supported and result in #N/A
ODF 1.4 says, "Evaluators may support other categories."
Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice do not support other categories. Excel
might support other categories. I do not see those in its help, but
[MS-OI29500] mentions some.
To help us make our decision, it might be useful to learn more about
other applications, such as those listed on Wikipedia. Perhaps some
members of the TC would be willing to review some of these applications?
I have attached a file using the categories of the standard.
We might need a JIRA-issue for the INFO function.
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7. Adjournment
Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!
Patrick