Hi Patrick
Exceptionally, because of an unexpected agenda, I'll have to skip this
Monday 20th meeting.
See you next week
Olivier
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> The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2026-04-20
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> 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights
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> 2. Motion (simple majority):
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> Approve ODF TC Minutes for April 13, 2026
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> 3. Action Items (from prior meetings)
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> A. Patrick to email Rich Proposal_2026-03-25.pdf (On Sunday so no time
> for Excel team to respond)
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> B. Patrick (spreadsheet on INT conversion) - ongoing (question)
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> C. Patrick (spreadsheet - semantics of FIELD) - ongoing
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> 4. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda
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> 5. issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4201 <https: issues.oasis-></https:>
> open.org/browse/OFFICE-4201> (continued)
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> Regina has marked several issues as editorial and suggest the TC
> can proceed without further comments from her
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> Let's continue with the "editorial" comments.
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> 6. Regina sent the following notes/suggestions on the INFO function:
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> *****
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> Arne's comments contain several remarks about the INFO function. I
> think, we need to alter the INFO function. The INFO function has several
> keywords for its parameter Category. They are marked as "Evaluators
> shall support at least the following categories:".
> The keywords are: directory, memavail, memused, numfile, osversion,
> origin, recalc, release, system, totmem.
> OOXML has the same keywords (18.17.7.168, ISO/IEC 29500-1:2016), but
> even Excel do not support all of them, see [MS-OI29500].
>
> I suggest to change "shall" to "should". And I suggest to recommend,
> that application should document what they result, to recieve better
> compatibility. My suggestion for the TC is, to look at existing
> applications, which keywords they actually support and what the
> applications actually return. Here a start:
>
> * PlanMaker does not support the INFO function at all.
>
> * Apache OpenOffice
> ** osversion: returns always "Windows (32-bit) NT 5.01" for
> compatibility reasons
> ** numfile: returns always 1 for compatibility reasons
> ** recalc: returns localized term of either "Manual" or "Automatic"
> according current formula recalutation mode.
> ** release: returns a product identifier like "300m25(Build:9876)" or
> "4116m3(Build:9816)"
> ** system: returns "WNT", "LINUX" or "SOLARIS" according its help. I
> cannot test other operating systems than Window 11.
> ** other keywords are not supported and result in an error message
> Err:502, which meams "invalid argument"
>
> * LibreOffice 26.2.2.2 (X86_64)
> ** osversion: returns always "Windows (32-bit) NT 5.01" for
> compatibility reasons
> ** recalc: returns localized term (depending on UI language) of either
> "Manual" or "Automatic" according current formula recalutation mode
> ** release: returns the BuildID, e.g.
> 1f77d10d6938fd34972958f64b2bcfa54f8b1ba5
> ** system: returns ANDROID, DRAGONFLY, EMSCRIPTEN, FREEBSD, OPENBSD,
> NETBSD, HAIKU, iOS, LINUX, MACOSX, SOLARIS, WNT according its help
> ** other keywords are not supported and result in #N/A
>
> ODF 1.4 says, "Evaluators may support other categories."
> Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice do not support other categories. Excel
> might support other categories. I do not see those in its help, but
> [MS-OI29500] mentions some.
>
> To help us make our decision, it might be useful to learn more about
> other applications, such as those listed on Wikipedia. Perhaps some
> members of the TC would be willing to review some of these applications?
> I have attached a file using the categories of the standard.
>
> We might need a JIRA-issue for the INFO function.
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> Patrick
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