Hi all,
Please find below today's meeting minutes.
Best,
Lucía
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Attendance: Mathijs, Yoshito, Rodolfo, Lucía. Mihai. We have quorum
Administration
R: I move to approve October 21, meeting minutes – https://groups.oasis-open.org/discussion/meeting-minutes-27
Y: I second.
R: Meeting minutes approved.
Technical
Errata status. Rodolfo.
R: I only modified the catalog, but I did not change the examples. I do not know if I should let Mihai modifying the module or if I should it myself.
Y: Is errata published as complementary released?
R: It is usually an autonomous document. We can wait a little bit longer with external feedback.
Y: If Mihai is not aware of this, I can go ahead and fix it.
R: That would be great.
Y: I can fix it. I will do that before next meeting.
(Mihai joins the meeting).
Y: Can you fix the examples?
M: Yes, I can. Should I write a new document?
R: No, you can write in the main document. We will record the changes.
Revisit the test suite topic: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-xliff-22/tree/master/xliff-21/test-suite . Yoshito.
R: I did not have the time to work on this. There no good library for typescript for dealing with XML, so I have decided to write it myself. It will also support XML Schema. I will also have a converter from XML to json. For example, we have some predefined attributes and values. We need an XML tool that is able to handle default values. Otherwise it is difficult.
Y: In the webinar we had a question about using json instead of xml.
R: Yes, there was a TC dedicated to create JLIFF but it is not longer active.
Y: Rodolfo, I did not have the time to go over the issues you mentioned about the test suite. Can you write them down so I can work on them?
R: Sure, no problem.
New translation memory standard. https://github.com/oasis-tcs/xliff-xliff-22/tree/master/memory
R : I was working on this and that why I decided to start working on the library I mentioned.
Provenance metadata discussion. https://groups.oasis-open.org/discussion/metadata-discussion Lucía
R: It was very interesting and I think we need to have a note or an article on explaining people how to use metadata. It would be also interesting to explain what we lost, for example the "date" information. We have to explain the information that we lost and how to introduce that metadata in XLIFF 2.2. The matches module does not have any metadata. For example, you cannot have provenance information on a match. We should start working on a note that could be useful for the public.
Y: Do we have an article explaining how to migrate from one version to the other?
R: we do not.
Y: This kind of information is very difficult to find. Like a converter from XLIFF 1.2 to 2.x. Are there any?
R: As far I know, there is not any. I have converters, but we do not have the notes explaining. That would be useful. Specification are boring, but If we can write a note explaining people how to do it, I think that would be useful.
Ma: The problem is that we those recommendations will be opinionated, people might want to do that their way.
R: Yes, but I think that it would be useful even if it is opinionated. That is better than having nothing.
R: I think that we are talking about two different things. The conversion, and also the metadata.
Y: Do you want to have two separate documents? One for translation memory and another for converting?
R: They are two different things.
Y: There is an overlap for metadata.
R: We even need three different documents.
L: I had several thoughts when preparing this analysis, first of all, that is quite difficult to put together all the provenance metadata that we have in XLIFF 2.2, it is scatter between different modules and the core, it took me a while to put it together. I was wondering if we could have it in the metadata module concentrated, but that can also include the risk of duplicating information. Also I though about the importance of all the metadata items, I am not sure about if they are equally important for the final user.
R: I think that this works deserves to be published in an article or in a note.
L: Do you have examples or templates?
R: There are new templates and we have done notes in the past.
L: Ok, if you think that it could be interesting for the tc and its audience, I can work on it., the goal goal of this note could be give guidance on how to annotate provenance metadata in 2.2. Rodolfo, could you send me the template so I can start working on it?
R: sure
Indexing issues, Mihai
L: Could you summarise the issues that you mentioned about the broken links in the search index so we can formally inform OASIS?
M: ok, I will do it.
L: Thank you so much.
L: No new business, meeting adjourned.
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Lucía Morado Vázquez
Researcher and lecturer
University of Geneva
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