XLIFF TC Monthly Teleconference

When:  Apr 20, 2004 from 16:00 to 17:00 (UTC)
Description: Tuesday, 20 April 04:00PM London/Dublin / 08:00 AM PST International Dial-In: +44 118 376 9023 Meeting ID: 30543

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Agenda: Agenda: 1. Roll Call 2. Accept, Amend or Reject Previous Meeting Minutes: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00013.html 3. Work in Progress: a. Represetation Guides: i. HTML / RTF: -Profile: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00018.html -Language switching: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00014.html -"ElemType_header" complex type: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00010.html ii. WinRes (John, Yves) - ??? iii. Resx (Enda, Gerard) - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00007.html iv. Java Property Resource Bundles (Tony)- ??? v. Java Properties (John) -http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00008.html vi. XForms ( Andrzej ) - ??? 4. Bugs, Submissions for new features, problem reports, etc. a. 'choice' in the "ElemType_header"http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200402/msg00024.html (John) Bryan - proposal to resolve at our next meeting: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00009.html b. Andrzej: Adding inline term info to XLIFF http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200404/msg00001.html c.Andrzej: Translations Grouped Across rans Units. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200404/msg00000.html d.Mat: Translation of Voice XML Issues http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00016.html 5. Status Report from Segmentation SC (Magnus) 6. XLIFF Generic XML parser - Follow up (Bryan) 7. OASIS Registry of XLIFF Implementations OASIS has created a registry of standards & spec implementations. Anyone can post their info: http://registry.oasis-open.org/index.jsp 8. Industry Events: a. report from UNICODE b. Upcoming events with XLIFF on agenda 1.LISA Summit San Francisco, CA, USA - June 21 - 23, 2004 2.Localization World: June 30 and July 1, Bonn Germany 3.Localization Summer School: 1-4 June 2004, Limerick Ireland 9. All Other Business. 10. Next XLIFF teleconference scheduled for Tuesday, 18 May, 2004 at 4pm GMT / 11am EST / 8am PST.

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Minutes: 1/ Roll Call There were 14 present as recorded in kavi. Apologies: Andrzej 2/ The minutes of the last meeting was agreed as a correct record. Proposed John and seconded Magnus. 3/ Work in Progress: Representation Guides: i. HTML / RTF: -"ElemType_header" Bryan explained his addition to John’s proposal for this bug fix. This has the occurrence attributes at the parent element and removed from the child element. See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00010.html for more information. It was agreed that this is a bug fix and should be done. Tony is to look at our revision policy and post this as specified by that policy. -Language switching: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00014.html Yves brought up an issue relating to language switching. His recommendation of using a span element was agreed. -Profile: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00018.html x-html- (From Yves) The issue is that there are very few HTML elements that have a corresponding pre-define restype value. Because when you map all the elements you have to know that information, we have to define a mechanism for the elements without corresponding restype values. The mechanism is to use x-html- where is the lowercase name of the element. The question was: Should we use that mechanism for ALL elements (therefore being consistent within the HTML extraction and easier for programming), or should we use it only when a pre-define value does not exist (better for interoperability). In other words, when we have should we use restype='table' or restype='x-html-table'? The general consensus was that interoperability was better, so we should try to use pre-defined values first. John noted that we even have explicit reference to HTML in the list of pre-defined values. The result was the decision of building a list of all HTML elements and assigning each a restype value so the developer knows exactly what to do. Bryan pointed out that we had already a start list in the current draft. I took the action item to work on it and post an update. The issue of using x-html- for HTML tags was raised and will be discussed later. We also discussed whether all HTML tags should be used in XLIFF ii. WinRes (John, Yves) – nothing to report iii. Resx (Enda, Gerard) – At our next meeting we will discuss the email from Gerard on Representing .NET Winforms in Xliff http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00007.html iv. Java Property Resource Bundles (Tony)- v. Java Properties (John) –Tony and John to work on the Java issues. vi. XForms ( Andrzej ) – Andrzej has apologised as he was at a conference so this issue will be discussed at a future meeting 4/ Bugs As Mat and Andrzej were not present this was deferred to our next meeting. 5/ Status Report from Segmentation SC (Magnus) Magnus reported back from this sub committee. It is continuing its work and has met a number of times since the last meeting. Magnus mentioned an interesting email conversation between Andrzej and Magnus which can be found at http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-seg/200404/msg00009.html Next Segmentation meeting: April 27th. 6/ XLIFF Generic XML parser - Follow up (Bryan) Bryan briefly mentioned the XLIFF parser he had worked on. Tony mentioned that this was well worth looking at and could be used as a demo. 7/ OASIS Registry of XLIFF Implementations OASIS has created a registry of standards & spec implementations. Anyone can post their info: http://registry.oasis-open.org/index.jsp . Tony encouraged TC members to submit XLIFF tools to this registry. 8/ Industry Events: a. report from UNICODE Tony, Peter, Yves and Shigemichi attended this conference. There were a number of speakers who mentioned XLIFF in a very positive light. b. Upcoming events with XLIFF on agenda 1.LISA Summit San Francisco, CA, USA - June 21 - 23, 2004 2.Localization World: June 30 and July 1, Bonn Germany 3.Localization Summer School: 1-4 June 2004, Limerick Ireland A number of people from the TC are attending these conferences. Anyone interested in running a workshop at the Localization World workshop should contact Tony or Peter asap. 9/ Any Other Business - none 10/ Next XLIFF teleconference scheduled for Tuesday, 18 May, 2004 at 4pm GMT / 11am EST / 8am PST.

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Attendance:

Achieved quorum: true
Counts toward voter eligibility: true

Individual Attendance
  • Members: 14 of 41 (34%)
  • Voting Members: 13 of 17 (76%) (used for quorum calculation)
Company Attendance
  • Companies: 9 of 19 (47%)
  • Voting Companies: 9 of 10 (90%)

Quorum rule: 51% of voting members