Description: Standing monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference.
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Agenda: NOTE: THIS TELECONFERENCE IS RESCHEDULED FROM DECEMBER 2005. NEXT MEETING AT REGULAR 3rd TUESDAY OF WEEK - NEXT WEEK!
1/roll call
2/Previous meeting minutes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200511/msg00006.html
3/ Work in Progress:
A. XLIFF 1.2 Specification update issues:
A new draft of the XLIFF 1.2 spec has been distributed due to the fact that the recently approved 1.2 Committee Draft omits a proposal that had been approved by TC ballot some months ago (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=750), which is described in this document -> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/200502/msg00010.html .
The latest draft of the 1.2 spec was distributed in this email -> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200601/msg00001.html
Review and discuss the spec & changes. If all looks well, we'll arrange for an email ballot to commence immediately in order to conclude in time for next week's normal January teleconference.
B. Representation Guides:
NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER; We'll need to revise the documentation guides to be 1.2 compliant before releasing them along with the specification.
a. HTML - final profile document was approved, with minor change made by Tony and reposted (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/200507/msg00003.html). Document will be submitted to OASIS for public review once spec and all supporting XLIFF profiles documents are complete.
This is to be modified for 1.2. Tony has volunteered to change this.
We agreed to have a meeting in two weeks time to look at the issues around represntation guides. This will happen on November 29th at the usual time.
b. NET & Windows Resources
NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER
Initial draft of .NET Profile:
Latest draft of Windows Res Data Resources (revised 21 Sep 2005): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00011.html
c. Java Resource Bundles
NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER
Latest Draft of Java Resources Profile: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/download.php/14554/xliff-profile-java-1.1-draft-1.zip
Although the TC provisionally agreed at last meeting to have a ballot starting September 30th, a number of issues arose during the review which require discussion in a teleconference. The issues are documented in the following mails:
a. Handling escaping and replaceables in XLIFF -> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00013.html
b. A number of issues in this email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00023.html
1/Differentiate between different Java platforms/versions
2/Address XML-based properties
3/Provide pointers to Java pages on internationalization
4/Sketch the Extract&Merge Paradigm
5/Handling of references (especially to non-textual resources)
6/Approach for comments
c.survey of existing parsing tools ->http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00025.html
These issues have not yet been addressed - need final word on escaping.
d. PO Files:
THIS ISSUE IS CLOSED - leaving in agenda for historical purposes.
No licensing issues exist with the work that was submitted to the XLIFF TC by Paul Gampe.
The proposed final PO file document submitted for ballot: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/download.php/14854/xliff-profile-po.zip
The ballot achieved a simple majority, and therefore PASSED and results are here: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=851
This representation guide will now be distributed along with the other resource type guides.
C. Open issues:
a. Translation of Voice XML Issues
~ Open until resolution of namespace issue.
- Action Item: Mat will submit a proposal on how to handle Voice XML issues.
Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00016.html
Latest Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html
Await update from Mat on any concrete proposals...
Mat was not online and we need to resolve the namespace issue.
b. Extending XLIFF with separate namespaces. Addressing this issue is deferred until the new year (when Andzrej has volunteered to spend some time on research).
4/XLIFF TC Re-Charter:
The charter for XLIFF TC was modified on 5 December 2005; the change was announced at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/tc-announce/200512/msg00002.html
5/XLIFF 1.2 Certification activities:
There is some planning work under way to introduce a certification programme for tools providers who will be generating XLIFF. The programme will be external but the TC will have opportunity to influence and approve testing and certification process. Additional details will be presented by Reinhard as they develop.
Overview of the ignite program which the LRC has proposed and had accepted as an EU project. See:
http://www.localisation.ie/publications/presentations/2004/Conference/Presentations/ReinhardSchaler2(ignite).ppt
They are working on the first phase of this program and looking at testing standards or emerging standards. Patrick Gannon has attended a recent Ignite project meeting. There is a plan to have a two day workshop in December. The first day will be an introduction to the technology and the second day will concentrate on the work of Ignite.
This meeting is taking place on December 14th and 15th. Tony and Peter are attending.
6/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups:
A. W3C i18n
B. Oscar
C. Trans-WS
D. LRC
7/Events:
A. Tony and Peter participated in the "Language Standards Summit" - Berlin, Germany 12-13 December http://www.internationalization-conference.org/languagestandards/index.html
B. Ignite conference 14-15 December, Dublin Reinhard, Peter and Tony attended.
8/All other business none
9/ Next meeting January 17, 4pm BST / 11am EST
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Minutes: 1/roll call
Apologies: Andrzej, Bryan
2/Previous meeting minutes:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200511/msg00009.html
The minutes of the last meeting were approved as a correct record. Doug proposed and David seconded this.
3/ Work in Progress:
A. XLIFF 1.2 Specification update issues:
A new draft of the XLIFF 1.2 spec has been distributed due to the fact that the recently approved 1.2 Committee Draft omits a proposal that had been approved by TC ballot some months ago (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=750), which is described in this document -> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/200502/msg00010.html .
The latest draft of the 1.2 spec was distributed in this email -> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200601/msg00001.html
Review and discuss the spec & changes. If all looks well, we'll arrange for an email ballot to commence immediately in order to conclude in time for next week's normal January teleconference.
Tony introduced the spec which will be put to a ballot of the TC following this meeting.
The main changes were adding an alttranstype which indicates the type of translation within the containing alt-trans element.
Deprecate the use of multiple target elements in an alt-trans element. Tony put a note in the specification to this effect. The functionality is still there but will removed at the next major increment.
Deprecate the restype element in the target element. Tony put a note in the specification to this effect. The functionality is still there but will removed at the next major increment.
Introduced a phase-name element in alt-trans.
Introduced a convention for more recent alt-trans element to appear before older ones.
Fixed typos.
Modified version number.
Modified XSD.
Tony has checked this XSD but has not done an extensive QA and asked that TC members should check the specification.
There were a number of minor issues and typos which the TC spotted. Tony agreed to fix this later today.
It was agreed to put a ballot on the specification. Tony will do this later today and the ballot will open from tomorrow until next Tuesday when it will be reviewed at the TC meeting.
4/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups:
A. W3C i18n
B. Oscar - Dave reported back from the OSCAR group. He said there was a lot of interest in the GILT metrics and Andrzej will report back at our next meeting.
C. Trans-WS – Peter mentioned that the TC were starting to work on whitepapers and other support material
D. LRC
5/Events:
A. Tony, Peter and Andrzej participated in the "Language Standards Summit" - Berlin, Germany 12-13 December http://www.internationalization-conference.org/languagestandards/index.html
B. Ignite conference 14-15 December, Dublin Reinhard, Peter and Tony attended.
The Berlin conference was very well attended and informative. One possibility is that XLIFF might become an ISO standard which would mean it is approved by governments.
The IGNITE conference in Dublin looked at both XLIFF and Translation Web services.
Peter mentioned the WIKISTANDARDS project which is being proposed as part of WIKIPEDIA. Peter will get the address for the mailing list dealing with this and send it to the TC.
6/All other business none
7/ Next meeting January 17, 4pm BST / 11am EST
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Attendance:
| Meeting Statistics |
| Quorum rule |
51% of voting members |
| Achieved quorum |
true |
| Counts toward voter eligibility |
true |
| Individual Attendance |
Members: 8 of 37 (21%)
Voting Members: 8 of 12 (66%) (used for quorum calculation)
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| Company Attendance |
Companies: 8 of 22 (36%)
Voting Companies: 8 of 11 (72%)
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