Monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference

When:  Jan 17, 2006 from 11:00 to 12:00 (ET)
Description: Standing monthly XLIFF TC Teleconference. 1. Call one of the MeetingPlace phone numbers: From the AMER region dial: * 1-888-967-2253 * +1-650-607-2253 From the APAC region dial: * +61 2 8817 6100 From the EMEA region dial: * +44 118 924 9000 2. Enter the Meeting ID (805534) followed by the # key 3. If the organizer has not started the meeting you will be: a. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key b. Placed in the waiting room on music hold until the organizer starts the meeting. If the organizer has started the meeting you will be: a. Asked to enter the Meeting Password (030543) b. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key

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Agenda: 1/roll call 2/Previous meeting minutes: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200601/msg00008.html 3/ Work in Progress: A. XLIFF 1.2 Specification update: A revised draft of the XLIFF 1.2 spec has been distributed some additional link problems being found -> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200601/msg00009.html) Ballot was set up to approve this spec as Committee Draft - http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=919 It appears to have passed, but at least one bad link has been identified that will require repair. Also, 2 more issues were identified in the XLIFF-TOOLS mailing list (http://xliff-tools.freedesktop.org/wiki/): Issue 1 (paraphrased): "Something rather curious for the group element. It says: "One or more group, trans-unit, bin-unit elements, in any order." Does this mean every group element _must_ contain at least one more group element and at least one bin-unit element?" -> Yes, in the XSD it's a choice, not a sequence. The sentence is not clear and should be fixed in the spec. Issue 2 (paraphrased): bin-target: In the description it says: "The optional state and state-qualifier attributes indicate in which state the bin-target is.The list of optional attributes is given as: "mime-type, ts, state, phase-name, restype,resname. No mention of a state-qualifier here. Does bin-target have a state-qualifier attribute or not? ... If you look at the state-qualifier attribute you'll find : State-qualifier - Describes the state of a particular translation in a target or bin-target element. The state-qualifier attribute is missing in the list. The XSD lists the following attributes: we need to fix the spec to include the missing state-qualifier attribute in bin-target. A new revised spec will be drafted and distributed before the teleconference. The changes should be very small and we can vote to approve the revised spec at the teleconference if required. B. Representation Guides: NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER; We'll need to revise the documentation guides to be 1.2 compliant before releasing them along with the specification. a. HTML - final profile document was approved, with minor change made by Tony and reposted (http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/200507/msg00003.html). Document will be submitted to OASIS for public review once spec and all supporting XLIFF profiles documents are complete. This is to be modified for 1.2. Tony has volunteered to change this. We agreed to have a meeting in two weeks time to look at the issues around represntation guides. This will happen on November 29th at the usual time. b. NET & Windows Resources NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER Initial draft of .NET Profile: Latest draft of Windows Res Data Resources (revised 21 Sep 2005): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00011.html c. Java Resource Bundles NOTE: NO PROGRESS SINCE MEETING IN NOVEMBER Latest Draft of Java Resources Profile: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/download.php/14554/xliff-profile-java-1.1-draft-1.zip Although the TC provisionally agreed at last meeting to have a ballot starting September 30th, a number of issues arose during the review which require discussion in a teleconference. The issues are documented in the following mails: a. Handling escaping and replaceables in XLIFF -> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00013.html b. A number of issues in this email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00023.html 1/Differentiate between different Java platforms/versions 2/Address XML-based properties 3/Provide pointers to Java pages on internationalization 4/Sketch the Extract&Merge Paradigm 5/Handling of references (especially to non-textual resources) 6/Approach for comments c.survey of existing parsing tools ->http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200509/msg00025.html These issues have not yet been addressed - need final word on escaping. d. PO Files: THIS ISSUE IS CLOSED - leaving in agenda for historical purposes. No licensing issues exist with the work that was submitted to the XLIFF TC by Paul Gampe. The proposed final PO file document submitted for ballot: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/download.php/14854/xliff-profile-po.zip The ballot achieved a simple majority, and therefore PASSED and results are here: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/ballot.php?id=851 This representation guide will now be distributed along with the other resource type guides. C. Open issues: a. Translation of Voice XML Issues ~ Open until resolution of namespace issue. - Action Item: Mat will submit a proposal on how to handle Voice XML issues. Initial: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00016.html Latest Update: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200403/msg00017.html Await update from Mat on any concrete proposals... Mat was not online and we need to resolve the namespace issue. b. Extending XLIFF with separate namespaces. Addressing this issue is deferred until the new year (when Andzrej has volunteered to spend some time on research). 4/XLIFF 1.2 Certification activities: Placeholder for any Ignite issues requiring discussion... 5/ Reports from liaisons involved with other standards groups: A. W3C i18n B. Oscar C. Trans-WS D. LRC 6/Events- none scheduled 7/All other business 8/Next meeting: Propose we meet for very brief teleconference on Feb 7, 4pm BST / 11am EST (in 2 weeks)

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Minutes: NOTE: Meeting was not quorate - only 5 members attended today. Meeting cancelled. Chair will send out final online ballot for recently revised spec. Next teleconference scheduled for Feb 7, 4pm BST / 11am EST (in 2 weeks).

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Attendance:
Meeting Statistics
Quorum rule 51% of voting members
Achieved quorum false
Counts toward voter eligibility true
Individual Attendance Members: 5 of 39 (12%)
Voting Members: 4 of 12 (33%) (used for quorum calculation)
Company Attendance Companies: 5 of 23 (21%)
Voting Companies: 4 of 11 (36%)