Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11 September 2019 00:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2019-09-11T00:00:00 Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
Participation
Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Ken Holman
Regrets:
Levine Naidoo
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Standing items
Additions to events calendar -
http://ubl.xml.org/events Nothing
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201909/msg00001.html Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201909/msg00003.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
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Oriol Bausa Peris
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Ger Clancy
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Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie platform e-factureren
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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Philip Helger
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G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
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Yves Jordan
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Matt Vickers
UBL 2.3
Please progress unaddressed JIRA tickets, especially the ones from UBL 2.2.
Remember to become watchers of a ticket in order to get push notifications ... for example with the ticket number in ###:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-### Open issues at:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 Managing requirements:
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CÃcile: pre-award documents
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Kees: post-award documents
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Peter: transportation documents
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Kenneth and Todd: payments and finance documents
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Ger and Kenneth: party information documents
Ken available to edit artefacts for UBL 2.3 with support from the members of the TC.
Subcommittee chairs are reminded of the documentation requirements for new UBL documents recorded in these minutes under Documentation :
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201902/msg00003.html Subcommittee process for forwarding changes to the main committee:
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Subcommittee edits test spreadsheet for test schemas
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Ken will make test schemas for the subcommittee
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The subcommittee proposes a summary of their changes to the main TC in a mail message, citing your test schemas for reference
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At a teleconference the main TC approves the changes
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Ken adds the changes to the main spreadsheets and publish new schemas for public review
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Guidelines for preparing spreadsheet columns discussed in:
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Image submission:
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All images must be submitted in Draw.io and SVG format and saved in shared Google directory here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1F8tfDM2_2boBTvBTtXg6aelYMo8agVLw ISO submission
Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html ISO requirements being discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 ISO requires all images in a revisable format. Work started on redrawing hub document diagrams to SVG format. All new diagrams must be stored in Draw.io and SVG format here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1F8tfDM2_2boBTvBTtXg6aelYMo8agVLw Members are encouraged to help redraw the old diagrams from this folder:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/csprd01-UBL-2.3/art/ UBL 2.3 First Public Review
UBL 2.3 Public Review has been announced and will end September 19:
https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-ubl-v2-3-ends-sept-19th Comments received so far:
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https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00003.html -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00004.html -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00006.html -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201908/msg00018.html -
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201908/msg00019.html Activities:
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Announce to PEPPOL and Norwegian users (Erlend)
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CEN e-procurement technical committee (TC440) (Cecile)
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Danish Chamber of Commerce (Peter)
To submit comments:
TC members should submit comments directly to the TC mailing list:
ubl@lists.oasis-open.org Non-TC member MUST submit comments to the TC Comments list:
ubl-comment@lists.oasis-open.org Payment Means Committee Note
30-day public review started 30 July 2019 and ends 28 Augusts 2019:
https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-ubl-payment-means-information-v1-0-ends-august-28th Comments received:
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https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00001.html UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Nothing
UBL Post-award
Requiring further discussion after PRD01:
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More dedicated document references in Reminder:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-177 -
Agreed to put this ticket on the agenda for the face-to-face meeting.
UBL Pre-award
Discussion about statistical reporting formats:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-223 .
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Proposal to add new ReceivedSubmissionStatistics ABIE to describe statistical information.
Discussion about _expression_ of Interest:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/projects/UBL/issues/UBL-238 . Please comment.
Possible discrepancies in the diagrams in 2.3.3.1 Tendering (pre-award). See
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-242 .
Resolution for
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-211 appears to not have been implemented in PRD01.
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Nothing
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
Nothing
JIRA tickets
Available filters:
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Discuss:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=15172 -
UBL 2.x:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 -
BDNDR:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472 -
All UBL:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 -
TCAdmin:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.
Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.
JIRA status and resolution value definitions
Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.
Our current definitions are:
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NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
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in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
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the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
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please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
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OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
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keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
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please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test
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RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released
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RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
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RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
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RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution
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RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution
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APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
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DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
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please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes
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See also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html Subcommittee conference calls
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Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Thursday every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility) on hold until after the release of PRD01
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Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at 13:30UTC (will be using Natalie's WebEx facility)
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
Face-to-face
Agenda:
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Monday: Review of comments received for PRD01
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Tuesday:
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Transportation Subcommittee (morning)
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Post-award Subcommittee (afternoon)
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Wednesday: Pre-award
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Thursday: Resolution of PRD01 comments
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Friday: Resolution of PRD01 comments
Logistics:
Agreed to open the Zoom facility during the face-to-face meeting or part of the meeting for those members not able to travel to Copenhagen.
Peter has created a Doodle to see who will attend the face-to-face meeting, please respond here:
https://doodle.com/poll/i6a43x2swtcfsehr Agreed to have our next face-to-face meeting in the week 23 to 27 of September in Copenhagen (DK). Thanks to Clearview Trade for hosting the meeting.
Meeting will commence Monday at 13:00 CEST and end Friday at 12:00 CEST.
The meeting will be held at Clearview Trade s facilities at:
Diplomvej 381, 2800 Kongens Lyngby (in the area of the Technical University of Denmark).
https://www.google.dk/maps/place/Diplomvej+381,+2800+Kongens+Lyngby/@55.7828646,12.5106569,17z/data= >
Nearby hotels:
Hotel Postgaarden,
https://www.postgaardenhotel.dk/ Scandic Erimitagen,
https://www.guestreservations.com/scandic-eremitage/booking?gclid=CjwKCAjw-ITqBRB7EiwAZ1c5U5Q8eXbHcGadJlXXE-FjvENYeFEZFB9Zshoc6X7-O1C_9BAlFpra7RoCNzoQAvD_BwE Public transportation:
Take bus 300E from Lyngby Station, get off at Elektrovej
Line A and E goes to Lyngby, you can change at NÃrreport St.
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2019-09-11
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-09-18
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Cancelled due to the following week s face-to-face meeting
2019-09-25
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Face-to-face meeting
2019-10-02
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Cancelled due to the previous week s face-to-face meeting
2019-10-09
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-10-16
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-10-23
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-10-30
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-06
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-13
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-20
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-27
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
Outline of teleconference times for 2019
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201812/msg00000.html (Note the date for the Australia time change is indicated incorrectly)
TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
Other business
Nothing