Title: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 18 April 2011 Dear Jon, As a followup to your request the TSC offers the following solution. 1. Move NominationDate and NominationTime from TransportContract ABIE to Contract ABIE with same attributes (0..1) after IssueTime. 2. Delete TransportContract ABIE. 3. Change Consignment.TransportContract ASBIE to be Consignment.Transport_Contract.Contract (as it is in version 2.0) 4. Change TransportExecutionPlan.TransportContract ASBIE to be TransportExecutionPlan.Transport_Contract.Contract Also, Audun to revise instance example for TransportExecutionPlan and provide shortly. Regards, Andy Schoka From: Jon Bosak [mailto:
bosak@pinax.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:56 PM To: UBL TC Subject: [ubl] Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 18 April 2011 MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING MONDAY 18 APRIL 2011 ATTENDANCE Jon Bosak (chair) G. Ken Holman Tim McGrath (vice chair) Andy Schoka STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar:
http://ubl.xml.org/events None. Review of Atlantic call minutes No comments. UBL 2.1 PRD2 STATUS PSC (TM): The group will be meeting Tuesday. TSC (AS): Sent revised examples from Audun. SGTG (GKH): In the process of renaming the examples and adding them to the collection; but there are still changes being made to the schemas. Will test as soon as the last changes have been made by Arianna. An issue remains from Arianna's post:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201104/msg00016.html The problem is that both 2.0 and 2.1 have a "transport contract," but the two versions have very different content. We have to keep the old transport contract for backward compatibility, so the new one will need to be renamed. ACTION: AS and TM to schedule a TSC meeting; TSC to rename the new transport contract and revise examples accordingly. GKH: Also, there is still one non-ASCII character left (in the Examples column of one of the spreadsheets) whose removal requires a programming change in eDoCreator. ACTION: SRDC to make the necessary change. GKH: There have been user questions about a start date for RFQs.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/201104/msg00000.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/201104/msg00001.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/201104/msg00002.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/201104/msg00003.html TM: The issue is whether we want to expand RFQ to look like RFP; the difference is in the formality of the process. An RFQ usually comes after an RFP and is more specific; an RFQ does not usually lead into tendering, whereas an RFP does -- but this is different in different countries. ACTION: JB to put this on next week's agenda. UBL 2.1 PRD2 DOCUMENTATION Reviewing questions posted 4 April:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201104/msg00005.html 1. In PRD2, we said we were going to add two new information items: <member>AllowanceCharge within ItemLocationQuantity</member> <member>VersionID in DocumentReference</member> Did we do that? Answer: We think we did. Which other information items did we add in PRD2? ACTION: GKH to add a list of changes to the SGTG model. This check should also be used to update the list of corrected DENs. 2. In PRD3, we expect to be adding two more document types, GoodsItemItinerary and TransportServiceDescription. What new information items do we expect to add in PRD3? AGREED that we won't attempt a detailed prediction this time around. 3. From PRD1: Other changes expected in PRD2: Addition of document-wide signature elements to the five document types that currently lack them: (CallForTenders, CatalogueRequest, ContractAwardNotice, ContractNotice, PriorInformationNotice) Did we do this? Answer: We did. UBL 2.1 DIGITAL SIGNATURE PROFILE JB: Have received detailed answers from Andrea; will process beginning Wednesday 20 April. UBL 2.1 MODELING ISSUES From last week: "ACTION (3/1): TM to investigate whether we can formalize JB's suggestion to create a script or even just a manually applied formula to the ASBIE definitions and report findings." Discussion: This will mean unloading and reloading all of the spreadsheets. Is the benefit worth the effort? AGREED to add consideration of this item to the work agenda for the meeting in Ankara. (Continuing from last week's minutes:) "Aside from the ASBIE definitions, other incomplete or inadequately specified definitions may lead to "tag abuse" (the tendency to substitute an incorrect tag when the correct one is not easily found or easily understood). On the other hand, a thorough revision would require the full attention of business experts and could take years. We need further discussion and input from PSC and TSC to resolve this dilemma." TM: You will get tag abuse anyway; as in law, there are no unchallengeable definitions, and a large-scale revision would be a massive exercise. [There are over 2000 definitions in UBL 2.1.] AGREED that a review of the definitions belongs to some phase of the effort following the release of UBL 2.1. There is a dependency between this and the translation work; perhaps it's time to involve the ontologists again. ANKARA MEETING PREPARATION TM: Will shift the opening plenary to 15:00 Monday in Ankara. TC CONCALL SCHEDULE Week of 2011.04.25 Regular schedule Week of 2011.05.02 Regular schedule Week of 2011.05.09 Regular schedule - missing AS Week of 2011.05.16 Regular schedule Week of 2011.05.23 >>> TRAVEL TO ANKARA <<< Week of 2011.05.30 >>> MEETING IN ANKARA <<< Week of 2011.06.06 >>> TRAVEL FROM ANKARA <<< Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
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