Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 09 October 2019 14:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2019-10-09T14:00:00 Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
Participation
Todd Albers
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Andrea Caccia
Ger Clancy
Kees Duvekot
Cecile Guasch
Ken Holman
Yves Jordan
Pacific call:
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Ken Holman
Regrets:
Levine Naidoo
Conferencing info
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https://zoom.us/zoomconference?m=tZYVoCjT6sw0zaoKK3bbfRHUX43prdSf Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Standing items
Additions to events calendar -
http://ubl.xml.org/events Nothing to add
Review of Copenhagen face-to-face meeting minutes
Draft minutes posted here:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=65997&wg_abbrev=ubl Meeting minutes of Copenhagen face-to-face meeting approved by all members present at todayâs call.
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201910/msg00007.html Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201909/msg00007.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
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Oriol Bausa Peris
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT
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Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the StandaardisatieÂplatform e-factureren
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
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Yves Jordan
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Kari Korpela
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Matt Vickers
Members losing voting status after this meeting:
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Matt Vickers
UBL 2.3
ISO submission
Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html ISO requirements being discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 ISO requires all images in a revisable format. Work started on redrawing hub document diagrams to SVG format. All new diagrams must be stored in Draw.io and SVG format here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1F8tfDM2_2boBTvBTtXg6aelYMo8agVLw Members are encouraged to help redraw the old diagrams from this folder:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/csprd01-UBL-2.3/art/ Draw.io is available online and free here:
https://www.draw.io Requirements and processes discussed here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201910/msg00003.html UBL 2.3 First Public Review Comment resolution
Comments were addressed during the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting. Draft comment resolution log available here:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=66024&wg_abbrev=ubl UBL 2.3 Second Public Review
Preparation of PRD02:
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Implement resolutions of PRD01 comments
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Review prose and redraw diagrams to comply with ISO requirements as discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 -
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-247 -
Update conformance clause to include conformance with additional Extension constraints:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/projects/UBL/issues/UBL-248 -
Update section 3.5.2 with Extension elements present at every ABIE:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-249 Payment Means Committee Note
30-day public review started 30 July 2019 and ends 28 Augusts 2019:
https://www.oasis-open.org/news/announcements/invitation-to-comment-on-ubl-payment-means-information-v1-0-ends-august-28th Comments received:
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https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201908/msg00001.html UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Nothing
UBL Post-award
Agreed to discuss further after PRD01:
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More dedicated document references in Reminder:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-177 UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
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Agreed in Copenhagen to present the Goods Item Passport to the ICC and ask them to review before or during PRD02.
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Proposal for a new Proof of Re-exportation Reminder.
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
Nothing
TC Liaisons
ISO TC 204/WG7
Agreed at the September 11, 2019 TC conference call to seek a formal liaison with ISO TC 204/WG7 specifically for collaborating on the new ISO 24533 specification.
We need to appoint a liaison, preferably someone who is a member of both groups. See also:
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons CEN TC 434
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
Martin will keep the UBL TC informed of any progress.
JIRA tickets
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UBL 2.x:
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BDNDR:
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All UBL:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 -
TCAdmin:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.
Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.
JIRA status and resolution value definitions
Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.
Our current definitions are:
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NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
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in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
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the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
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OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
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keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
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please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test
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RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released
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RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
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RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
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RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution
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RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution
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APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
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DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
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please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes
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See also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html Subcommittee conference calls
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Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Thursday every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility) â on hold until after the release of PRD01
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Pre-award Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at 13:30UTC (will be using Natalie's WebEx facility)
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
Face-to-face
Face-to-face meeting(s) in 2020?
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2019-10-16
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-10-23
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-10-30
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-06
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-13
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-20
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-11-27
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
Outline of teleconference times for 2019
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201812/msg00000.html (Note the date for the Australia time change is indicated incorrectly)
TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
Other business
Nothing