Title: AS3?.... I think that we have managed to attribute a need for ebXML that simply cannot be implied. The ebXML Message Services were defined apart from any transport protocol. It would be wrong to attempt to justify a need for AS? standards based on ebXML. I am not sure there is a valid argument for pursuing an AS2-like solution for FTP. I am sure that anyone who tries to use ebXML as the justification will be embarassed to know that ebXML Message Service Specification will not promote the argument. The specification is very clear, it states: The ebXML architecture requires that the ebXML Message Service protocol be capable of being carried over any available communications protocol. Therefore, this document does not mandate use of a specific communications protocol. I suggest that a different justification be crafted before this discussion goes any further. Ralph Berwanger bTrade, Inc