OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

Greetings! The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2024-01-08 Time of meeting: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 The call counts towards voter eligibility. Teleconference Numbers - Access code: 438387 Canada (use US number) Denmark +45 78 77 25 34 Germany +49 30 255550324 Hungary +36 1 987 6874 Netherlands +31 6 35205016 United Kingdom +44 330 777 2407 US +1 267 807 9605 Chat room for meeting is at http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf Please send comments to the mailing list. 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 18 December 2023 - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00037.html 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda 4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o and status our working draft to OASIS 5. Volunteers for next/upcoming call (Presenter: Svante) TC members choose an existing issue (e.g. from our working query below) that they will prepare for presentation/solution! (alternatively they create a new ODF issue of an existing unspecified serialization feature of an ODF application). Presenters might present on the next call or give weekly updates.. 6. Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF Next & ODF-Later (Presenter: Svante) Shall we drop ODF-Later in favor of the status of no label or DEFERRED? Shall we drop ODF-Next in favor to a specific version number (even if we rename the label afterwards - we might want to test to change ODF-Next to ODF 1.6) Last call discussions: Regina Henschel: Fix version "ODF-Later" has currently no useful meaning. It is even used for issues with status "New". We agree to not use "ODF-Later" any longer. We agree to correct the FixVersion field, whenever we touch an issue again, that has an "ODF-Later" set, but do not make a bulk change. Francis Cave: I propose to remove 'ODF-Later' from JIRA issues that are 'CLOSED' or 'DEFERRED'. Alfred: No version label until we have resolved it! 7. OFFICE-4109: How shall we proceed with the existing issue for default values (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4109 https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/11747/ODF%201.3%20optional%20attributes%20described%20in%20chapter%2019%20but%20with%20no%20default%20value.ods Next steps, definition of done? 8. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color" (Presenter: Svante & Michael) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090 https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls Shall we accept this issue and mark it open? What might be a proposal? 9. Working down the following query: "project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND type = Improvement AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - 16 improvements bugs in total https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph (Presenter: Svante or Regina) We already agreed on this editorial issue and it is also added by myself to our GitHub, but the issue has not the resolution "RESOLVED"! Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? 10. OFFICE-4124: 'clear' attribute for line breaks (Presenter: Regina) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4124 Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? In addition, do we agree to switch to target ODF 1.5? 11. OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 Next steps to find a proposal? 12. Ideas to make our TC work more efficient? (Presenter: Svante) Volunteers to prepare a proposal of an issue over weeks. What more can we do? 13. Adjournment.

Happy New Year! Just a reminder of our regular ODF TC meeting 8 January 2024. I think I am close enough to full recovery to take over leading the TC meeetings, although I enjoyed the improvements Svante has made to the agenda! Hope everyone is having a great week and I will hear all of you next Monday! Patrick -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [office] Agenda for ODF TC Teleconference, 8 January 2024 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 19:57:28 +0100 From: Svante Schubert <svante.schubert@gmail.com> To: office@lists.oasis-open.org <office@lists.oasis-open.org> Greetings! The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2024-01-08 Time of meeting: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 < https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 > The call counts towards voter eligibility. Teleconference Numbers - Access code: 438387 Canada (use US number) Denmark +45 78 77 25 34 Germany +49 30 255550324 Hungary +36 1 987 6874 Netherlands +31 6 35205016 United Kingdom +44 330 777 2407 US +1 267 807 9605 Chat room for meeting is at http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf Please send comments to the mailing list. 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 18 December 2023 - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00037.html 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda 4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o and status our working draft to OASIS 5. Volunteers for next/upcoming call (Presenter: Svante) TC members choose an existing issue (e.g. from our working query below) that they will prepare for presentation/solution! (alternatively they create a new ODF issue of an existing unspecified serialization feature of an ODF application). Presenters might present on the next call or give weekly updates.. 6. Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF Next & ODF-Later (Presenter: Svante) Shall we drop ODF-Later in favor of the status of no label or DEFERRED? Shall we drop ODF-Next in favor to a specific version number (even if we rename the label afterwards - we might want to test to change ODF-Next to ODF 1.6) Last call discussions: Regina Henschel: Fix version "ODF-Later" has currently no useful meaning. It is even used for issues with status "New". We agree to not use "ODF-Later" any longer. We agree to correct the FixVersion field, whenever we touch an issue again, that has an "ODF-Later" set, but do not make a bulk change. Francis Cave: I propose to remove 'ODF-Later' from JIRA issues that are 'CLOSED' or 'DEFERRED'. Alfred: No version label until we have resolved it! 7. OFFICE-4109: How shall we proceed with the existing issue for default values (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4109 https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/11747/ODF%201.3%20optional%20attributes%20described%20in%20chapter%2019%20but%20with%20no%20default%20value.ods Next steps, definition of done? 8. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color" (Presenter: Svante & Michael) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090 https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls Shall we accept this issue and mark it open? What might be a proposal? 9. Working down the following query: "project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND type = Improvement AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - 16 improvements bugs in total https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph (Presenter: Svante or Regina) We already agreed on this editorial issue and it is also added by myself to our GitHub, but the issue has not the resolution "RESOLVED"! Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? 10. OFFICE-4124: 'clear' attribute for line breaks (Presenter: Regina) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4124 Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? In addition, do we agree to switch to target ODF 1.5? 11. OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 Next steps to find a proposal? 12. Ideas to make our TC work more efficient? (Presenter: Svante) Volunteers to prepare a proposal of an issue over weeks. What more can we do? 13. Adjournment. Attachment: OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

hello, could we please put this new issue on the agenda? https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4153 i hope it will motivate me to finish writing a proposal :) regards, michael On 18/12/2023 19:57, Svante Schubert wrote: Greetings! The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2024-01-08 Time of meeting: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 < https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 > The call counts towards voter eligibility. Teleconference Numbers - Access code: 438387 Canada (use US number) Denmark +45 78 77 25 34 Germany +49 30 255550324 Hungary +36 1 987 6874 Netherlands +31 6 35205016 United Kingdom +44 330 777 2407 US +1 267 807 9605 Chat room for meeting is at http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf < http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf > Please send comments to the mailing list. 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 18 December 2023 - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00037.html < https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00037.html > 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda 4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o > and status our working draft to OASIS 5. Volunteers for next/upcoming call (Presenter: Svante) TC members choose an existing issue (e.g. from our working query below) that they will prepare for presentation/solution! (alternatively they create a new ODF issue of an existing unspecified serialization feature of an ODF application). Presenters might present on the next call or give weekly updates.. 6. Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF Next & ODF-Later (Presenter: Svante) Shall we drop ODF-Later in favor of the status of no label or DEFERRED? Shall we drop ODF-Next in favor to a specific version number (even if we rename the label afterwards - we might want to test to change ODF-Next to ODF 1.6) Last call discussions: Regina Henschel: Fix version "ODF-Later" has currently no useful meaning. It is even used for issues with status "New". We agree to not use "ODF-Later" any longer. We agree to correct the FixVersion field, whenever we touch an issue again, that has an "ODF-Later" set, but do not make a bulk change. Francis Cave: I propose to remove 'ODF-Later' from JIRA issues that are 'CLOSED' or 'DEFERRED'. Alfred: No version label until we have resolved it! 7. OFFICE-4109: How shall we proceed with the existing issue for default values (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4109 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4109 > https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/11747/ODF%201.3%20optional%20attributes%20described%20in%20chapter%2019%20but%20with%20no%20default%20value.ods < https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/11747/ODF%201.3%20optional%20attributes%20described%20in%20chapter%2019%20but%20with%20no%20default%20value.ods > Next steps, definition of done? 8. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color" (Presenter: Svante & Michael) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090 > https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color < https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color > https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls < https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls > Shall we accept this issue and mark it open? What might be a proposal? 9. Working down the following query: "project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND type = Improvement AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - 16 improvements bugs in total https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred < https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred > OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph (Presenter: Svante or Regina) We already agreed on this editorial issue and it is also added by myself to our GitHub, but the issue has not the resolution "RESOLVED"! Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? 10. OFFICE-4124: 'clear' attribute for line breaks (Presenter: Regina) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4124 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4124 > Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? In addition, do we agree to switch to target ODF 1.5? 11. OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 > Next steps to find a proposal? 12. Ideas to make our TC work more efficient? (Presenter: Svante) Volunteers to prepare a proposal of an issue over weeks. What more can we do? 13. Adjournment. -- Michael Stahl Senior Software-Entwickler LibreOffice allotropia software GmbH Versmannstr. 4 20457 Hamburg Germany michael.stahl@allotropia.de https://www.allotropia.de Registered office: Hamburg, Germany Registration court Hamburg, HRB 165405 Managing director: Thorsten Behrens VAT-ID: DE 335606919

Will do and will re-issue the agenda! Thanks! Patrick On 1/5/24 08:11, Michael Stahl wrote: hello, could we please put this new issue on the agenda? https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4153 i hope it will motivate me to finish writing a proposal :) regards, michael On 18/12/2023 19:57, Svante Schubert wrote: Greetings! The agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2024-01-08 Time of meeting: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 < https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2024&month=01&day=08&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=234&p2=25&p3=136&p4=37&p5=241 > The call counts towards voter eligibility. Teleconference Numbers - Access code: 438387 Canada (use US number) Denmark +45 78 77 25 34 Germany +49 30 255550324 Hungary +36 1 987 6874 Netherlands +31 6 35205016 United Kingdom +44 330 777 2407 US +1 267 807 9605 Chat room for meeting is at http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf < http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf > Please send comments to the mailing list. 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 18 December 2023 - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00037.html < https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202312/msg00037.html > 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda 4. Editor's work review: Update on ODF 1.4 editing progress sheet (Presenter: Francis and/or Patrick) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o < https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J4TDjF7T62oN9Afhz1OTA6ePOFcCGlgjBF9L2xdF47o > and status our working draft to OASIS 5. Volunteers for next/upcoming call (Presenter: Svante) TC members choose an existing issue (e.g. from our working query below) that they will prepare for presentation/solution! (alternatively they create a new ODF issue of an existing unspecified serialization feature of an ODF application). Presenters might present on the next call or give weekly updates.. 6. Future of "ODF Fix Version/s. (aka target)" - ODF Next & ODF-Later (Presenter: Svante) Shall we drop ODF-Later in favor of the status of no label or DEFERRED? Shall we drop ODF-Next in favor to a specific version number (even if we rename the label afterwards - we might want to test to change ODF-Next to ODF 1.6) Last call discussions: Regina Henschel: Fix version "ODF-Later" has currently no useful meaning. It is even used for issues with status "New". We agree to not use "ODF-Later" any longer. We agree to correct the FixVersion field, whenever we touch an issue again, that has an "ODF-Later" set, but do not make a bulk change. Francis Cave: I propose to remove 'ODF-Later' from JIRA issues that are 'CLOSED' or 'DEFERRED'. Alfred: No version label until we have resolved it! 7. OFFICE-4109: How shall we proceed with the existing issue for default values (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4109 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4109 > https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/11747/ODF%201.3%20optional%20attributes%20described%20in%20chapter%2019%20but%20with%20no%20default%20value.ods < https://issues.oasis-open.org/secure/attachment/11747/ODF%201.3%20optional%20attributes%20described%20in%20chapter%2019%20but%20with%20no%20default%20value.ods > Next steps, definition of done? 8. OFFICE-4090: style:use-window-font-color missing a definition of "window foreground color" (Presenter: Svante & Michael) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4090 > https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color < https://oasis-tcs.github.io/odf-tc/odf1.4/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.4-part3-schema.html#property-style_use-window-font-color > https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls < https://libreofficemaster.blogspot.com/2022/03/libreoffice-dark-mode-on-windows.htmls > Shall we accept this issue and mark it open? What might be a proposal? 9. Working down the following query: "project = OFFICE AND fixVersion = ODF-Next AND proposal is not EMPTY AND type = Improvement AND status != CLOSED AND status != Deferred" - 16 improvements bugs in total https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred < https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20ODF-Next%20AND%20proposal%20is%20not%20EMPTY%20AND%20type%20%3D%20Improvement%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20CLOSED%20AND%20status%20!%3D%20Deferred > OFFICE-4141: style:script-type has redundant paragraph (Presenter: Svante or Regina) We already agreed on this editorial issue and it is also added by myself to our GitHub, but the issue has not the resolution "RESOLVED"! Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? 10. OFFICE-4124: 'clear' attribute for line breaks (Presenter: Regina) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4124 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4124 > Do we agree on the proposal and switch the resolution to "RESOLVED"? In addition, do we agree to switch to target ODF 1.5? 11. OFFICE-3926: Use of attribute style:list-style-name in connection with pure <text:h> element is unclear (Presenter: Svante) https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 < https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3926 > Next steps to find a proposal? 12. Ideas to make our TC work more efficient? (Presenter: Svante) Volunteers to prepare a proposal of an issue over weeks. What more can we do? 13. Adjournment. -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net Homepage: http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau Attachment: OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature