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  • 1.  Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-12-2010 18:34
      Dear members of the LegalXML Steering Committee,
    I have been instructed to inform you that the OASIS Board of Directors 
    has adopted the following resolution and its amendment:
    
    "RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08, Prohibit Legal XML member section from making 
    any further spending commitments until they have convinced the Board 
    that they are a going concern."
    
    RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08a (to amend), add "as of 15 October 2010" before "until" in the previous notice.
    
    
    This, of course, means that committed funds to date are not impacted, 
    including funds already assigned to the Stanford event. Please feel free 
    to contact OASIS staff to arrange a discussion with the Board.
    
    Best regards,
    
    -- 
    Laurent Liscia, Executive Director
    OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    1-978-667-5115, extension 201
    
    Take a tour of OASIS at:
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  • 2.  Fwd: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-12-2010 20:47
    ECF TC Members ... see below message from the Oasis Exec. Director to the Legal XML SC. Since ECT is currently the only TC under LegalXML it seems to me you should all be aware.

    I have no idea why they have made this decision. The LegalXML SC has been active, and acting in good faith over the past several months. Furthermore, I'm not sure how to respond as I don't have the time or energy to attempt to make a case to the OASIS Board that they need to lift this decision.

    Would love to hear any suggestions you all might have.


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Laurent M. Liscia <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org>
    Date: Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM
    Subject: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors
    To: legalxml-sc@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: "Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org" <Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>, Dee Schur <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>, Scott McGrath <scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>, Cathie.Mayo@oasis-open.org, Board Plus <board-plus@lists.oasis-open.org>


     Dear members of the LegalXML Steering Committee,
    I have been instructed to inform you that the OASIS Board of Directors has adopted the following resolution and its amendment:

    "RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08, Prohibit Legal XML member section from making any further spending commitments until they have convinced the Board that they are a going concern."

    RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08a (to amend), add "as of 15 October 2010" before "until" in the previous notice.


    This, of course, means that committed funds to date are not impacted, including funds already assigned to the Stanford event. Please feel free to contact OASIS staff to arrange a discussion with the Board.

    Best regards,

    --
    Laurent Liscia, Executive Director
    OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    1-978-667-5115, extension 201

    Take a tour of OASIS at:
    http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php



     

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  • 3.  RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Fwd: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-13-2010 00:08
    
    
    
    
    


  • 4.  RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Fwd: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-13-2010 11:56
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    The fact that this was happening without the member section steering committee or the ECF TC not being aware is very disturbing.  There is obviously a serious lack of communication somewhere in the process.

    From: O'Brien, Robert [mailto:Robert.OBrien@cas-satj.gc.ca]
    Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:08 PM
    To: George W. Knecht; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: RE: [legalxml-courtfiling] Fwd: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    In case anyone isn’t aware, for all intents and purposes, the LegalXML Member Section and the Court Filing TC are now one and the same, as apparently there are no longer any other active TCs in the LegalXML Member Section.

    So it would appear that we must convince the OASIS Board that we are a going concern.

    A going concern can be said to be an organization that is currently operating, and which shows that it intends to keep on operating.  In other words, a going concern means the entity is not being run as if it were going to close soon.

    As George said, the LegalXML SC has been meeting via conference call at least monthly this year – certainly since I was elected to it back in January and George became chair shortly thereafter.  We are financially supporting a conference at Stanford U and sending our own Jim Cabral as a presenter / panelist. We are providing considerable technical assistance in Arizona so that we can gain feedback for future iterations of the ECF 4.0 recommended specification, and have been seeking any other interested implementations. George himself is attending e-Courts West as an outreach effort …

     

    George and I have enquired a couple of times of our OASIS colleagues sitting in on our conf calls about whether a Member Section could continue with just one TC. Unless I am mistaken, I believe that their advice to us was yes, yes it could. Even so, George has made a point of stating during the calls that we would actively welcome any new TCs into LegalXML.

    So this has really come out of left field …

    George, it would seem that we have enough ammunition to meet any challenge that we are not a so-called “going concern” ….


    From: George W. Knecht [mailto:george@pcintellect.com]
    Sent: October 12, 2010 4:47 PM
    To: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] Fwd: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    ECF TC Members ... see below message from the Oasis Exec. Director to the Legal XML SC. Since ECT is currently the only TC under LegalXML it seems to me you should all be aware.

    I have no idea why they have made this decision. The LegalXML SC has been active, and acting in good faith over the past several months. Furthermore, I'm not sure how to respond as I don't have the time or energy to attempt to make a case to the OASIS Board that they need to lift this decision.

    Would love to hear any suggestions you all might have.

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Laurent M. Liscia <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org>
    Date: Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM
    Subject: [legalxml-sc] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors
    To: legalxml-sc@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: "Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org" <Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>, Dee Schur <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>, Scott McGrath <scott.mcgrath@oasis-open.org>, Cathie.Mayo@oasis-open.org, Board Plus <board-plus@lists.oasis-open.org>


     Dear members of the LegalXML Steering Committee,
    I have been instructed to inform you that the OASIS Board of Directors has adopted the following resolution and its amendment:

    "RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08, Prohibit Legal XML member section from making any further spending commitments until they have convinced the Board that they are a going concern."

    RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08a (to amend), add "as of 15 October 2010" before "until" in the previous notice.


    This, of course, means that committed funds to date are not impacted, including funds already assigned to the Stanford event. Please feel free to contact OASIS staff to arrange a discussion with the Board.

    Best regards,

    --
    Laurent Liscia, Executive Director
    OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    1-978-667-5115, extension 201

    Take a tour of OASIS at:
    http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php



     

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    602.380.8049



  • 5.  Re: [board-plus] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-13-2010 13:38
    One correction, the date noted in final amended resolution is 13 October 2010.
    
    The motion as modified reads "Prohibit Legal XML member section from making any further spending commitments as of 13 October 2010 until they have convinced the Board that they are a going concern."
    
    The following additional resolution was also passed:
    
    "The Board revise the RoP for the Legal XML Member Section to remove dues allocation, effective immediately."
    
    
    regards, Frederick 
    
    Frederick Hirsch, Nokia
    Secretary, OASIS Board of Directors
    
    
    
    On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:36 PM, ext Laurent M. Liscia wrote:
    
    > 
    > Dear members of the LegalXML Steering Committee,
    > I have been instructed to inform you that the OASIS Board of Directors 
    > has adopted the following resolution and its amendment:
    > 
    > "RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08, Prohibit Legal XML member section from making 
    > any further spending commitments until they have convinced the Board 
    > that they are a going concern."
    > 
    > RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08a (to amend), add "as of 15 October 2010" before "until" in the previous notice.
    > 
    > 
    > This, of course, means that committed funds to date are not impacted, 
    > including funds already assigned to the Stanford event. Please feel free 
    > to contact OASIS staff to arrange a discussion with the Board.
    > 
    > Best regards,
    > 
    > -- 
    > Laurent Liscia, Executive Director
    > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    > 1-978-667-5115, extension 201
    > 
    > Take a tour of OASIS at:
    > http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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    > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    > generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
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    > 
    
    


  • 6.  Re: [legalxml-sc] Re: [board-plus] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 11-18-2010 05:37
    Catching up on old emails ... I'm not sure who has the action item to actually edit the RoP and formally notify the Member Section Members, but I reviewed the Member Section Policy and I can't find anywhere that it grants the right to the Board to make changes to a Member Section RoP.  Please advise if there's some action I should be taking.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary 
    
    
    
    
    
    On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:37 AM, 


  • 7.  RE: [board-plus] Re: [legalxml-sc] Re: [board-plus] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 11-18-2010 15:48
    Mary:
    Section 3.2.(f) of the Member Section Policy includes the statement:
    "If dues allocation is proposed for this Member Section, the proposers of
    the Member Section must provide a budget and work with OASIS Staff to create
    an analysis of the financial impact of dues allocation on the OASIS general
    fund in advance of the OASIS Board's approval of the ROP, in order to help
    the OASIS Board make an informed decision. Further, the Member Section must
    have an approved annual budget that shows how Member Section Funds collected
    from all sources are used to further Member Section goals."
    
    I think that this adequately provides for a "legal basis" for the Board's
    decisions. The Board giveth and the Board can taketh away...
    
    Peter
    
    


  • 8.  Re: [board-plus] Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-13-2010 13:38
    One correction, the date noted in final amended resolution is 13 October 2010.
    
    The motion as modified reads "Prohibit Legal XML member section from making any further spending commitments as of 13 October 2010 until they have convinced the Board that they are a going concern."
    
    The following additional resolution was also passed:
    
    "The Board revise the RoP for the Legal XML Member Section to remove dues allocation, effective immediately."
    
    
    regards, Frederick 
    
    Frederick Hirsch, Nokia
    Secretary, OASIS Board of Directors
    
    
    
    On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:36 PM, ext Laurent M. Liscia wrote:
    
    > 
    > Dear members of the LegalXML Steering Committee,
    > I have been instructed to inform you that the OASIS Board of Directors 
    > has adopted the following resolution and its amendment:
    > 
    > "RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08, Prohibit Legal XML member section from making 
    > any further spending commitments until they have convinced the Board 
    > that they are a going concern."
    > 
    > RESOLUTION 2010-10-12.08a (to amend), add "as of 15 October 2010" before "until" in the previous notice.
    > 
    > 
    > This, of course, means that committed funds to date are not impacted, 
    > including funds already assigned to the Stanford event. Please feel free 
    > to contact OASIS staff to arrange a discussion with the Board.
    > 
    > Best regards,
    > 
    > -- 
    > Laurent Liscia, Executive Director
    > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    > 1-978-667-5115, extension 201
    > 
    > Take a tour of OASIS at:
    > http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    > generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
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    > 
    
    


  • 9.  RE: Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-13-2010 14:45
    Hello all,
    In response to this decision;
    Monica Palmirani (StC member): "the idea of Stanford is also to open new
    track in the LegalXML for reinforced the vision and to renewal of the
    community especially on the Legal and Legislative document standardization."
    
    The Stanford event will occur on 9 November and Peter will be speaking at
    this event -- I would suggest that the LegalXML Steering Committee submit a
    progress report following this event to determine if it is realistic and
    probable that the MS will scope new work in support of its mission in 2011.
    
    Regards,
    Dee
    
    Dee Schur, Senior Manager - Standards Advocate
    OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    http://www.oasis-open.org
    +1.978.667.5115 x211
    
    
    
    


  • 10.  RE: Decision from the OASIS Board of Directors

    Posted 10-13-2010 14:45
    Hello all,
    In response to this decision;
    Monica Palmirani (StC member): "the idea of Stanford is also to open new
    track in the LegalXML for reinforced the vision and to renewal of the
    community especially on the Legal and Legislative document standardization."
    
    The Stanford event will occur on 9 November and Peter will be speaking at
    this event -- I would suggest that the LegalXML Steering Committee submit a
    progress report following this event to determine if it is realistic and
    probable that the MS will scope new work in support of its mission in 2011.
    
    Regards,
    Dee
    
    Dee Schur, Senior Manager - Standards Advocate
    OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    http://www.oasis-open.org
    +1.978.667.5115 x211