Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 15 January 2025 15:00UTC
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
Participation
Todd Albers
Paloma Arillo Aranda
Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Peter Borresen
Paul Donohoe
Kees Duvekot
Ken Holman
Yves Jordan
Wim Kok
Dragos Stoica
Regrets:
Sander Fieten
Ole Madsen
Natalie Muric
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
- OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.4
- OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3
- OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
- OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
- OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.4 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
- http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/cs01-UBL-2.4/
The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
- http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
- http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
- http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
- http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
- http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/
Standing items
None
Wikipedia page
Updates and maintenance of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language
Review of Atlantic call minutes
Minutes available under "Discussion" in the new Community Workspace: https://groups.oasis-open.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer?communitykey=556949c8-dac8-40e6-bb16-018dc7ce54d6
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647
Voting status is determined by the following:
- existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
- non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
- members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
After the shift to the new system, the TC is no longer able to maintain the roster on the OASIS website. The list below is therefore the definitive and authoritative record of voting rights. Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
- Todd Albers
- Paloma Arillo Aranda
- Kenneth Bengtsson
o Chair OASIS BDXR TC, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
- Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
- Peter Borresen
o DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
- Andrea Caccia
o Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT, Chair OASIS Code List Representation TC
- Paul Donohoe
- Kees Duvekot
o Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the NEN TC 434
- Sander Fieten
o Cochair OASIS ebXML Messaging Services TC, Cochair OASIS BDXR TC
- Ken Holman
o Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC
- Yves Jordan
- Wim Kok
- Ole Madsen
o DK Member CEN/TC440
- Natalie Muric
- Dragos Stoica
Members losing voting status after this meeting:
- Natalie Muric
TC Vitality Check
The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.
Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.
As per OASIS TC Process section 1.10, the TC must affirm its vitality and charter every 4 years: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process-2017-05-26/#tcVitality
TC charter: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/charter.php
Does the TC affirm that it is active and that it will continue its work with its current charter?
Motion made by Kenneth, seconded by Ken. Approved by all members attending today's meeting.
Kenneth will send out a call for candidates for TC Chair(s).
ISO/TC 68 AG2 liaison
Proposal for establishing liaison with ISO/TC 68, responsible for creating global standards for the financial services industry. TC 68 is responsible for standards that cover core banking, capital markets including asset management, payments, credit card processing, and information security aspects specific to financial services. The committee is organized into three subcommittees: SC2 (Information Security), SC8 (Reference Data), and SC9 (Information Exchange). ISO / TC 68 AG2 focuses on the global regulatory community and is responsible for responding to consultations regarding regulatory and compliance requirements established by governing bodies.
Proposal to establish liaison between OASIS UBL and ISO/TC 68 AG2 to act as a bridge between both standards bodies, where OASIS standards could support the requirements from the governing body.
Agreed to nominate Todd Albers liaison officer (to be formally voted on next week).
EU survey on e-invoicing
The EU is conducting a survey on e-invoicing: https://groups.oasis-open.org/discussion/fwd-eu-einvoicing-invitation-to-contribute-to-the-future-eu-einvoicing-policy-2025.
Shall we participate in the survey as a Technical Committee? Kenneth will draft a response to be discussed next week.
Links of interest:
https://docs.ted.europa.eu/EPO/latest/_attachments/html_reports/eInvoicing/index.html
https://docs.ted.europa.eu/EPO/latest/conceptual.html
UBL 2.4
Review of UBL 2.4 submission to ISO closed on 14 September 2024. The submission of UBL 2.4 is approved by the TC, OASIS executive management, as well as OASIS membership.
Ken has prepared a complete package containing the specification in both NISO STS XML format as well as in Word-format and with all graphics in SVG format, and a preview in PDF format: https://groups.oasis-open.org/higherlogic/ws/public/document?document_id=72355
Awaiting feedback from OASIS on the status of the ISO submission.
UBL 2.5
The TC has approved a UBL Deprecation Policy version 1.0 available here:
- https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71497&wg_abbrev=ubl (PDF)
- https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=71496&wg_abbrev=ubl (ODT)
Roadmap to 2.5
- Timeline and milestones:
o March 1, 2025: eFTI domain specific UBL 2.5 preliminary
o April 7, 2025: Finalize semantic library review
o April 7, 2025: Finalize multipart-specification, including JSON part
o June 2025: No new requirements
o July 2025: Committee Specification Draft 01
o September 2025: Committee Specification Draft 02
o November 2025: Committee Specification approved
o March 2026: OASIS Standard
- Review of the semantic library:
o Documents are reviewed by the individual subcommittees in accordance with https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f0yyWMLK9wAWEjEKgsoXT7eov9h5bx6qxROBZP_qu7M/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0
o Technical Committee:
§ In progress
o Organisation Master Data SC:
§ Combined effort with the Pre-award TC
o Payments and Finance SC:
§ Pending Post-Award SC progress
o Post-award SC:
§ Pending
o Pre-award SC:
§ In progress
o Transportation SC:
§ In progress
- Review of supplementary components:
o Review was finalized in Budapest: https://wv2agsty.nocodb.com/#/nc/kanban/bd3026b2-8250-46b5-ae42-c3272e5060b2
- Review of specification:
o In progress (Kenneth)
- JSON syntax binding:
o In progress (Erlend)
- Circularity and ESG data elements:
o Open ticket: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-357
o In progress
- Publishing tools:
o Master spreadsheets for UBL 2.5 are available here:
§ Library elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18o1YqjHWUw0-s8mb3ja4i99obOUhs-4zpgso6RZrGaY/
§ Document elements: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1024Th-Uj8cqliNEJc-3pDOR7DxAAW7gCG4e-pbtarsg/
o Need to create XSDs with deprecation documentation (Ken and Kees)
o Should we create an additional set of XSDs without deprecated elements? Ticket open: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-385
o In progress
Jira tickets:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=16270
Subcommittee reports
UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Nothing
Organisation Master Data Subcommittee
Nothing
Payments and Finance SC
Nothing
TC Liaisons
CEN TCs 434 and 440
The CEN TCs 434 and 440 are responsible for the standardization of e-invoicing and public procurement in Europe, respectively.
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html. The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
Working Group 1 of SC 32 is the eBusiness working group of the ISO data management and interchange subcommittee. Of specific interest to UBL, WG1 focuses on e-invoicing standardization.
Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html
OASIS has been in contact with the SC 32 secretariat. SC 32 has provided an application form to apply as CAT A Liaison. Currently waiting on OASIS to return the form.
ISO TC 323 (WG5)
TC 323 is the Circular Economy technical committee of ISO, which develops the Product Circularity Data Sheet (PCDS) within Working Group 5.
Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202402/msg00004.html. Awaiting feedback from OASIS.
ISO TC 207
TC 207 is the ISO committee on environmental management. The ISO 14000 series, in particular, is relevant to UBL and our efforts to support emerging ESG requirements in supply chain data exchange.
At the The Hague meeting, Kenneth volunteered as liaison officer. Does the TC agree to initiate a formal liaison between the OASIS UBL TC and the ISO TC 207, and to appoint Kenneth Bengtsson as the Liaison Officer for the UBL TC? Agreed by all members present. Kenneth will inform OASIS.
Subcommittee conference calls
- The Pre-award SC will be meeting Wednesdays at 15:00 CET starting June 19.
- Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.
TC conference call schedule
Face-to-face meeting
Spring 2025 meeting:
- Invitation from The Publications Office of the European Union to host us in Luxembourg, confirmed for April 7-10, 2025.
o Proposal for topics: "Green" influence on post-award and pre-award
Fall 2025 meeting:
- Italy, possibly Milano or Rome? Dates to be confirmed.
Spring 2026 meeting:
- Minneapolis? Possibly in May. Dates to be confirmed.
Call schedule
Agreed to temporarily suspend the Pacific calls while we have no participants from the Pacific region. Pacific calls will be reinstated upon request from any TC member.
2025-01-21/2025-01-22
- Pacific: Canceled
- Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2025-01-28/2025-01-29
- Pacific: Canceled
- Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2025-02-04/2025-02-05
- Pacific: Canceled
- Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2025-02-11/2025-02-10
- Pacific: Canceled
- Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2025-02-18/2025-02-19
- Pacific: Canceled
- Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2025-02-25/2025-02-26
- Pacific: Canceled
- Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
TC calendar
https://groups.oasis-open.org/communities/community-home/recent-community-events?communitykey=556949c8-dac8-40e6-bb16-018dc7ce54d6
Other business
Wim reported interest from existing UBL users in JSON. Agreed to make it focus for next week's meeting.
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